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#1 upstatemike

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 08:57 AM

The HA Technology Comparison Spreadsheet has been published on Google and I have had some folks editing the online copy. This seems to be working well so I want to open it up to more people and provide some general guidelines. This thread will be a place to make suggestions for changes to the layout and content of the spreadsheet. Here is what I am thinking:

TO CONTRIBUTE – Just send me a PM with an email address and what it is you want to edit and I will set you up as a collaborator for the Google spreadsheet. If you suggest a change or correction in a post then it might eventually get done by somebody but the best approach is to do contribute directly.

BEST CASE – If we try to make this sheet show every model of every product then it will quickly become too confused to be useful. I suggest each product should be represented once with the top-of-the-line model, including all options, for a best case comparison. Once folks pick a platform or two to focus on they can get the finer details from the manufacturer’s web site.

SUPPORTED FEATURES – Product features should refer only to those supported by the author/manufacturer. If the feature is provided by a third party who is not actively developing and supporting the feature on an ongoing basis, then it really should not be counted.

FORMATTING – I have some conditional format rules in place to control the cell colors. If a cell contains a Y or a number greater than 0 it will turn green. If it contains only an N it will turn red. I will probably add some colors for NA and Beta as well. If it helps to add some info to help qualify a Y then please add it. Example Y (X10rf) was used to indicate UPB supports wireless RF control but clarifies it further by indicating it does it using X10 RF products.

STATUS – This is pretty straight forward: Y if it has the feature, N if it does not, NA if it does not apply, and Beta if it is available in open beta. I don’t want to see a lot of vaporware listed so anything that is “announced”, “under development”, or “in closed or limited beta” should just be N until it is at least available in open beta.

ADDITIONAL FEATURES – I put this together as a basic framework. It is expected that there are many features worth comparing that are not yet on the sheets. Electricity monitoring, irrigation control, and pool related stuff are all good examples of things that need to be added. Anybody can add a feature as long as it is generally applicable to all of the platforms being compared. Example: “Supports Qnet protocol” would not be a good feature to add if the Qnet protocol is something proprietary to a specific brand. There is nothing to compare.

CORRECTIONS – Some of the original information came from product web sites that were kind of light when it comes to specs. If you see something that is wrong please fix it. If you are changing somebody else’s work please make a post in this thread so folks know what is getting changed and why. Be sure to specify which sheet you are correcting. Example: Don’t just say you corrected something on the Cortexa entry without saying if it was corrected on the software page or the controller page.

FORMATTING – Please don’t make drastic changes to the overall layout of a sheet unless it is first discussed here. I will be making a few final layout tweaks but then I plan to leave things alone unless an improvement is discussed and generally agreed to.

GROUPING – Products are not in any particular order except that I tried to group similar products together for easier comparison. CQC is near Homeseer and VCrib is near Housebot. This was subjective on my part and I’m sure I will hear if something is too far out of wack.

EXAMPLE SYSTEMS – Example systems are meant to be commonly used combinations of products. It will not be practical to put every possible iteration of products on this sheet so lets stick to those most often seen within a given product family. It is also not practical to make an example system too general (Insteon or X10 or UPB or Z-Wave). These examples should show the most common product groupings with the more "all inclusive" product details shown on the other sheets.

Edited by upstatemike, 11 July 2008 - 03:04 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 09:58 AM

There needs to be a couple of corrections to the Elk M1 Gold (I don’t have write access). The M1 Gold has touch tone control and phone answer. I can pick up the phone handset at my house or call my house and hit a key combo for the Elk to pick up. The phone interface is similar to the keypad interface and the M1 Gold reads off the options to you. I use this to start heating/cooling my house when I’m returning from vacation.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:09 AM

There needs to be a couple of corrections to the Elk M1 Gold (I don’t have write access). The M1 Gold has touch tone control and phone answer. I can pick up the phone handset at my house or call my house and hit a key combo for the Elk to pick up. The phone interface is similar to the keypad interface and the M1 Gold reads off the options to you. I use this to start heating/cooling my house when I’m returning from vacation.

I can confirm these features and have made the changes outlined above.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:12 AM

Perfect. This is the way it is supposed to work!

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:13 AM

What about adding two extra Rows to the bottom of every page for 'Last Updated' and 'Last Updated By', these rows would then always stay at the bottom and any one changing that column needs to update those rows?

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:33 AM

Added Feature 'Security Panels' to 'Software' sheet and updated CQC to reflect the feature.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:29 AM

What about adding two extra Rows to the bottom of every page for 'Last Updated' and 'Last Updated By', these rows would then always stay at the bottom and any one changing that column needs to update those rows?


OK with me but I think you need input from some of the other contributors on this.

I am also still planning to remove the checkbox columns ("required", "nice to have", and "do not want") because they can really only be used if somebody prints the sheet and uses it like a form.

Edited by upstatemike, 15 April 2008 - 11:34 AM.


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:31 AM

because they canl really only be used if somebody prints the sheet and uses it like a form.

And if they are doing that, they can just circle it, mark it, or even highlight it if they want.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:42 AM

There are several incorrect items on the Mult-Zone audio tab for Nuvo.

local artist/track info diplay should be Y if using the M3 or Y if you push that info from something else like CQC.
local HA message display should be Y
IR remote should be Y

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:44 AM

There are several incorrect items on the Mult-Zone audio tab for Nuvo.

local artist/track info diplay should be Y if using the M3 or Y if you push that info from something else like CQC.
local HA message display should be Y
IR remote should be Y


I thought I fixed some of those already but go ahead and correct them if they are still wrong.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:45 AM

There are several incorrect items on the Mult-Zone audio tab for Nuvo.

local artist/track info diplay should be Y if using the M3 or Y if you push that info from something else like CQC.
local HA message display should be Y
IR remote should be Y

I confirmed these features and made the changes.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:49 AM

I also know that the SpeakerCraft info is wrong because I could not find details on how many systems can be connected for expansion etc. If anybody is familiar with these products please correct total zones, ir support, and so on.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:34 PM

I also know that the SpeakerCraft info is wrong because I could not find details on how many systems can be connected for expansion etc. If anybody is familiar with these products please correct total zones, ir support, and so on.


Some more CQC corrections:

- There is a beta SONOS driver
- There si a driver for B&K, but it's not been officially included in a release yet. Some folks are using it.
- In the automation triggers, those should all be Y but 'Voice command'.
- In the Media Software Integration section, all should be Y but MMCE (and you should probably add DVD Profiler to that section, which would be a Y also.)

Edited by Dean Roddey, 15 April 2008 - 12:35 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 01:07 PM

I also know that the SpeakerCraft info is wrong because I could not find details on how many systems can be connected for expansion etc. If anybody is familiar with these products please correct total zones, ir support, and so on.


Some more CQC corrections:

- There is a beta SONOS driver
- There si a driver for B&K, but it's not been officially included in a release yet. Some folks are using it.
- In the automation triggers, those should all be Y but 'Voice command'.
- In the Media Software Integration section, all should be Y but MMCE (and you should probably add DVD Profiler to that section, which would be a Y also.)


Dean-

I have added you to the collaborators list so you can make these edits directly.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 02:40 PM

On the Software Page where items are marked as 'via IR or Serial' Should we be marking it as such if it can controll it both ways or Mark it as 'Y' if there is already a driver created to control it via serial or TCP and 'IR' if there is no driver created yet but can control it via IR?




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