OmniPro II and IP cameras

Hi everyone,
just found your forum and I'm happy to have someone to ask few things about;
 
I installed for someone, a while ago, an OmniPro II controller, mostly for lighting control and security;
now, the person want to add some security cameras and a video doorphone
 
first question: will any IP camera work to have it displayed on the touchscreen Omnitouch 7? don't want to go into panasonic or axis, thinking for something more like DigitalWatchdog or Vivotek or similar
can the setup be done from the Dealer PC access software at extended setup section? or I need something else? for the recording I'll setup a DVR separately
 
second: at the time I bought the controller, there was an IP intercom available, but the price was kinda prohibitive; talking with the Leviton guys, know there are none;
looks like they start the development for a new piece, but it's still a long way out;
 
have anyone succeeded to interconnect a different IP video-phone? any model and some instruction will be greatly apreciated
 
 
thanks for you time to read this and any suggestion are welcomed.
 
 

sorry, for some reason I wrote OmniTouch 7 which is wrong,
I have Omnitouch 5.7e installed in that site
 
thanks.

The 5.7e will work with most .jpg streams.
I have Vivotek cameras that work well with them.
You'll need Automation Studio to enter the IP and stream URL into the touchscreens.
 
The updated firmware of the 5.7e has a built in IP intercom.
It works between touchscreens, I don't know how well it integrates with a third party door IP intercom station.

are you sure it can't be done using dealer access?
because using the extended setup I add a camera, IP, type, url, ...,  I reload the setup into touchscreen, and the IP camera appeared into the Omni menu, under cameras;
 
however it did not connect, but I suspect the URL wasn't good, I user a Digital Watchdog camera, and even it has a stream as MJPEG, I don't think I have the correct URL; and the autentification is some active X, and that again I don't think it works.
 
unfortunatelly, I dont have a Vivotek camera to try it.
 
thanks again for your help

I deleted my cameras from the extended setup because it was causing issues with Haiku.
I'll have to go back and look at the parameters.

Here I just put in the ZoneMinder links in PCA and they work fine on the Omnitouch 5.7e screens. 
 
Test the links with a browser to validate.
 
I don't have automation studio and still utilizing stock Omnitouch 5.7e screens.
 
They are 4:3 views rather than wide screen.
 
I have 10 cameras configured and working fine.

Looked at the IP camera page in PCAccess this weekend.
Pete's post confirms it.
 
Pete, with more than 4 cameras, are you viewing them via the Camera List panel?
It appears above you have more than one configured as "Camera One".
Actually, judging by the IP address, that looks like multiple streams from the same camera.

Yup; its a camera list; looks just like the list of the UPB devices.  I click on the camera and it opens up the view.  It does not provide a full screen view when you press the video like the Omnitouch 5.7 does.
 
I don't pay attention to that column "Camera One".  I am thinking that is for the HAI Axis server.  Just looked and all 10 cameras are labeled "Number One".  It doesn't matter relating to the configurations.  Well for the ZM box.
 
There are more than 10 cams set up; just never configured them in PCA.
 
It is the same IP with a call per stream.  This makes it easy to set up; its just a clip and past and changing the monitor number.  ZM lets you set what type (codec) of streaming you want. 

http://192.168.244.166/cgi-bin/nph-zms?mode=jpeg&monitor=1&scale=100&maxfps=5&buffer=1000&user=username&pass=userpassword
http://192.168.244.166/cgi-bin/nph-zms?mode=jpeg&monitor=2&scale=100&maxfps=5&buffer=1000&user=username&pass=userpassword
http://192.168.244.166/cgi-bin/nph-zms?mode=jpeg&monitor=3&scale=100&maxfps=5&buffer=1000&user=username&pass=userpassword
http://192.168.244.166/cgi-bin/nph-zms?mode=jpeg&monitor=4&scale=100&maxfps=5&buffer=1000&user=username&pass=userpassword
Here is a picture of one camera's view.  It is a mixture of HD IP and Analog cams pulling views from two ZM boxes.  Multiple view which cameras look at cameras.  Optex, Grandstream and Ubiquiti;s cameras.
 
Someone mentioned on Homeseer if you wanted to embed a camera view in an HTML page you could do the following using one of the ZM links above.

<imgsrc="http://192.168.244.166/cgi-bin/nph-zms?mode=jpeg&monitor=4&scale=100&maxfps=5&buffer=1000&user=username&pass=userpassword&t=" width='' onload='setTimeout(function() {src = src.substring(0, (src.lastIndexOf("t=")+2))+(new Date()).getTime()}, 1000)' onerror='setTimeout(function() {src = src.substring(0, (src.lastIndexOf("t=")+2))+(new Date()).getTime()}, 5000)' alt='' />

Feeding the older Omnitouch / CCTV hub with analog plus screen switching analog via a Grandstream encoder.
 
Note that this is a stock Omnitouch 5.7e; never modded.
 

 

 
First ZM box box is a hybrid of analog and IP.  There is an 8 port / 8 chip analog capture card in it.
Second ZM box is just all HD IP cameras.

Sorry if this post appears twice, think I messed up.
 
I am having a camera problem. I have an OMNIPRO II with an OMNITOUCH 7. I have set up a simple FOSCAM with no problem, appears on the OMNITOUCH. Straight forwards settings. I used PC Access to set it up.  IP Camera Nam (Living Room), Type (MJPEG), URL (http://192.168.20:2000/video.cig), Number (One), FPS (Twenty), Quality (High), Resolution (640x480), User Name (admin), Password (xxxx).
 
First question - What is the Number Field? It goes One through Four. Does that mean I can only set four cameras up? Seems odd since PC Access let's me add more than four rows.
 
Second - I  have a Speco Technologies NVR. It works fine as an independent system, but I want to see the cameras on the OMNITOUCH.  Can I addressed these IP cameras directly? My challenge is the NVR sets up its own network and provides IP address to the cameras (192.168.78.11, .12, etc port 554) and the address of the NVR is 192.168.1.31.  How do I populate the fields in OMNIPRO for this? Can I just directly put in the "192.168.78.11:554/video.cgi" in? I tried that? it hangs up on the OMNITouch. Any advice?

First question - What is the Number Field?

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It is for the HAI camera server.
 

Does that mean I can only set four cameras up?

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no
 

Second - I  have a Speco Technologies NVR. It works fine as an independent system, but I want to see the cameras on the OMNITOUCH.  Can I addressed these IP cameras directly? My challenge is the NVR sets up its own network and provides IP address to the cameras (192.168.78.11, .12, etc port 554) and the address of the NVR is 192.168.1.31.  How do I populate the fields in OMNIPRO for this? Can I just directly put in the "192.168.78.11:554/video.cgi" in? I tried that? it hangs up on the OMNITouch. Any advice?

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The Omnitouch screen has to be on the same network or have access to the NVR network. 
 
How do you connect to the NVR network interface today?  Think of the Omnitouch as a similiar client.
 
The PCA camera configuration is very flexible and has worked fine here. 
 

Hi Pete -
 
Thanks for the information.  Somehow my original posting was posted as "Guest", guess I was not logged in when posting, so just catching up.
 
So if I can impose on your expertise one more time. (BTW, I'm just a homeowner playing around with this stuff as a hobby).  So my network is your typical set up, using 192.168.1.x, into my existing network I added an 8 port Luxul with POE.  I've connected the Speco NVR (ZIPK842 - PoE NVR with four IP Bullet cameras) to the Luxul switch (non POE slot) and it has an address of 192.168.1.7.  I have attached one of the OMNITOUCH to the same switch (PoE port), it has an address 192.168.1.30.  All of the Speco cameras are connected to the NVR are assigned IP addresses by the NVR 192.168.78.12, 192.168.78.13 etc.  That part works fine I can see the cameras on a monitor, through apps on my phone, through web browsers inside and outside my home.  I read somewhere that for OMNITOUCH I simply needed to address it to http://192.168.1.7/cgi-bin/mjpg/video.cgi?channel=0  The URL is the NVR URL and channel=0 is for CAM1, channel=1 is for CAM 2 etc. and I insert my name and password in the appropriate field in the IP camera set up in PC Access, but no luck. The OMNITOUCH just sits there trying to establish a connection.  BTW I do have an inexpensive FOSCAM that works just fine connected to the OMNITOUCH http://192.168.1.20:2000/video.cgi (URL of FOSCAM, Port 2000). I did also try adding the port number into the URL for the NVR (http://192.168.1.7:5445/.... No luck there either.  I sent an email to Speco, they didn't give a definitive answer not being familiar with the OMNITOUCH, thought maybe I would have to not connect all of the cameras directly to the NVR, but just to my network. Then add in the camera addresses to the NVR (http://192.168.1.xx, xy, etc.) I haven't tried that yet, maybe this week, but doing that would put all the traffic on my network. I thought one of the cool things was that the camera traffic is all on the NVR network and I could grab streams when I wanted (i.e. pull up on the OMNITOUCH).
 
Thanks for any advice you (or anyone) can provide.

@febrien
 
What is the link that you are configuring in your OPII panel via PCA for which camera?
 
You mention two networks
 
1 - 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254 Mask 255.255.255.128 - 24 bit mask  GW: 192.168.1.???
 
Your Omnitouch 7 and OPII panel are on this subnet
 
2 - 192.168.78.12, 192.168.78.13, et al  - cameras connected to NVR get their addresses from the NVR on a separate subnet defined on the NVR
 
3 - Speco NVR has an IP of 192.168.1.7 eh?
 
4 - When you want to see one camera stream you type.
 
dub dub 192.168.1.7/cgi-bin/mjpg/video.cgi?channel=0
 
Having a look at this Speco Manual
 
You are looking to configure your Omnitouch 7 via the configuration in PCA using the NVR IP per stream of camera.  This works fine for me using ZM which is similiar in a way to what you are doing.
 

I insert my name and password in the appropriate field in the IP camera set up in PC Access, but no luck.

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This part of the configuration on PCA is only for the HAI Propietary Axis server. Don't use it for your stuff.
 
Put your camera link / stream stuff with user name and password in the html piece of the configuration.
 
What is it you put in a browser today to see one stream (change your name and password)? 
 
Post it here.
 
1 - current link configured in PCA
2 - link you use via a browser to see one stream from the NVR
 
Looks to me like you just have to add
 
&USER=[USERNAME]&PWD=[PASSWORD]
 
to the end of the html line in the configuration.
 
IE: dub dub 192.168.1.7/cgi-bin/mjpg/video.cgi?channel=0&user=[username]&pwd=[password]
 
Playing around here I have 16 links configured in PCA and show up fine on my Omnitouch 5.7e's (well in 4:3 boxy mode). 
 
The Omnitouch 5.7e only looks at the IP Camera name, type, address/URL but not at the number FPS, Quality, resolution, username or password fields. (best guess from my playing around)

Thanks again Pete, but still no luck. I tried http://192.168.1.7/cgi-bin/mjpg/video.cgi?channel=0&user=username&pwd=password where I replaced username with my username and password with my password.  It still sits there trying to "establish connection".  So to confirm
 

1. Yes, my home network is 192.168.1.x , Mask 255.255.255. Gateway 1.192.168.1.254
2. Yes OMNITOUCH 7 and OPII panel on this network with address in this range, they communicate fine and the network assigns the NVR an address 192.168.1.7. The NVR assigns the cameras address such as 192.168.78.x
3. Yes Speco address is 192.168.1.7, can use all of the speco software and see those cameras
4. Now this parts interesting to me I use the address in #3 I see all four cameras. If I go to a web browser and type http://192.168.1.7:59012, a password request window pops up, I enter username and pwd and I see Camera 1 streaming in the web browser, similarly http://192.168.1.7:59013 gets me the next camera, etc.  I think there is a clue here but not sure.  I did try entering this URL into PC access appending it with /&user=username&pwd=password.  Sadly just sits there establishing connection.  I had a good feeling the URL with that specific port would work, but no. I'm not sure if the user/password format is right or what.

One thing I never mentioned, I do have the "Type" set to MJPEG in the PC Access set up, I assume that I correct. I also tried going to my web browser where http://192.168.1.7:59012 brings up the user/pwd request and tried doing http://192.168.1.7:59012/&user=username&pwd=password  and it doesn't like that.  Maybe it shouldn't but I thought it that was going to work in the PC access URL, it would work in the web browser, so that's why I'm thinking I still have the URL wrong.
 
Thanks again!

A quick glance this morning at my CCTV settings.  I am using JPEG, MJPEG and Panasonic. 
 
Can you type a single stream with password in a browser and see the camera?  Any browser? 
 
Not a single stream with a pop up for a user name or password but rather one that already just gets you to the stream.
 
Lets first leave the OPII configuration alone until we can test the streaming single video view in any browser with a password.
 
Baby steps.  If this part doesn't work then the OPII stuff will not work.  It is not the other way around.
 
If you want PM me and we can set something up for me to have a look at your stuff.  I am in the Midwest.
 
Its fine to continue to utilize DHCP on the NVR to cameras stuff and your main network stuff.
 
That said I keep a very small DHCP scope and statically assign IP's to most devices. 
 
There are also configured to MAC addresses devices; which are just manually configured IP addresses to devices based on their MAC addresses.
 
Sometimes the browser cache stuff and that too can cause an issue with a change in IP address.

Pete
Good point. If I can't get this to work just straight out in a browser, this won't work.  So far I've only been able to stream to the browser, AFTER the pop up asks for username and password.  I will try to get this to work with a single stream URL.  I've tried a few possibilities, but I will explore a few more.  I also attempted to try and turn off the username/password requirement as a test, but no luck there. It is a quiet Sunday, snow shoveling done (I'm in the NE so we'd had our share of snow as have you) , so I will try a few things today and let you know.