LED Candelabra bulb hunt

N49atv

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Hello,

Been s while since I have been on the forums, life gets in the way. Anyway,

My wife bought this fixture
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The picture shows half Chrome, 40w, incandescent, candelabra bulbs x30, or 1200w (10A).

I'd like to replace these with 5-6w LEDs. I can't find any half Chrome, which makes sense due to the nature of the design of the LEDs.

The lighting store wanted $25 each, for a total of $1k with no spares.

I'm looking for the the following,

5-6w LED
Round or blunt tip
White - cool white (say 4300k-6000k)
Dimmable (I use HAI UPB dimmers)
Hoping to be in the $10-15 per range
32-36 bulbs

Anyone see any with good success, or can tell me what to stay away from?
 
Wow - cool... but it seems like changing the bulb style would really affect the look of the fixture as a whole.
 
I have some Philips candelabra LED bulbs - they're not bright enough and they cost way too much.  Haven't found anything better either.
 
I can't tell from the pic what the bulbs look like, but Home Depot has quite a selection of LED candelabra bulbs for less than $10/each when you buy a 4 pack or larger.
 
I haven't seen any really good LED candelabra's that run directly from AC.  Maybe convert to DC outside of the fixture, and then use corncob LED's to emite the desired light output?  It would be quite a conversion project though.
 
Here utilize crystal looking regular base candelabra bulbs for all of the outside coach lighting which is 40 watts AC.  I have not been able to find or replicate the look of a clear candelabra bulb  I do dim down the lights a bit.  They do last a while.  I did purchase a few extras in bulk though.  I also utilize 120VAC halogen clear crystalline looking bulbs elsewhere.  These are used for the appearance of the light and not really related to whether its an LED or not at this time. 
 
This morning looking for LED replacements for the Christmas 120VAC candles in each window.  (thinking today replacement bulbs are around $1 each).  These are 7 watts.  LED would put them at 1 watt or less.  I do not dim these.
 
Well looking this morning did find a dimmable OK looking 120VAC LED clear candelabra bulb. 
 
These are 60 watt looking 5 watt LED lamps at $15.50 each X 30 = $465.00 plus shipping.
 
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The Crystal Place
 
I still like the glass to look and provide a crystal look reflecting back to the apparatus of my lights which is more of a glass and metal thing.
 
Found these on Ebay for $9.99 each.  Guessing you could probably find them maybe on Ebay for less and similiar looking to the above.  Not really sure if I like the base on these though.  Cheapo me puts these LED lamps at maybe worth $3.00 - $5.00 each.
I would maybe try to purchase in bulk and make an offer on these say for $100 for 30 of them?
 
Personally have done this for my outdoor LED lamps and testing indoor 120VAC LED lamps. (bulk buy ebay stuff).
 
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Here I have a chandelier with incandescent lighting which I never did upgrade; rather just used a high wattage UPB dimmable switch on it which doesn't buzz.  Have not found the "right" LED lamp yet. 
 
I do also have installed a chandelier lift (PITA to install this garage door motor like winch in the attic) for it (many years ago) making the cleaning and bulb changing easy today. 
 
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Bravo.  Looks like you may have found one that might actually resemble the thing it's trying to mimic:
 
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In contrast, most of the ones in the past looked kinda alien.  So much so that I stopped even looking to find one.  Now there's reason to hope again.   Zooming back, I presume the the one directly above is the bulb on the right:
 
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http://www.lightingatlanta.org/W32
 
If nothing else, it gets the form factor right....  I bet the higher efficiency LED's of late allowed them to use a smaller power converter, and thereby finally squeeze the whole thing small enough.
 
Here I figured first test of these would be the Christmas candles in the windows first; well and easy to get to bulbs.  ~ 20 of these for testing.
 
I did purchase one on a battery operated LED candle gizmo for one window that doesn't have an electrical outlet on and have used it now for the last two years.
 
The LED lamp looks similiar to the above lamps with a clear glass cover over just the LEDs.
 
This post has me looking for them; just test ones first.
 
Here purchased 2 watt LED E12 base warm white LED with clear glass. 
 
I was able to find them for $2.70 each in packages of 10 (bought 2X). 
 
For my use they will not be dimmed.  They might be too bright anyways.
 
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Still thinking they are priced a bit high.
 
Concurrently found these filament LED lamps which I have never seen before.  These are dimmable.  These are $17 USD each.
 
These are E27 base (standard) and I would utilize these for all of the outside coach lamps being similiar to what I have right now.
 
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The coach lamps are all glass mostly and this style would provide the light I am looking for in an LED lamp.
 
The above said I would pay maybe $8.00 for these in bulk.  These are probably worth $2.00 each.
 
Unrelated...we have a few glass cabinets with little spots in them that I dim down with UPB.  Found 6 watt COB lights with an E27 base for $3.00 USD each and giving these a try.  Purchased 10 of these.  These are a PITA to change bulbs as the bulb socket is recessed into the wood cabinet tops.  (wood and glass shelf cabinets are all wood on the bottom, 7-8 foot high).  These are worth maybe $2.00 each.  The cabinets also have little mini puck lamps on the top for indirect lighting such that each cabinet has two HV 120 power sources.
 
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Some nice looking bulbs there, I have been looking as well. I have no issue converting to DC if needed.

The original bulbs in picture, are round, half chromed.
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I'm looking at some blunt tip candelabra bulbs ( not looking for flame look)

Wife wanted a white light, which seems to be the biggest issue. Most are 2700/3000k

I have found a few that may work, but not from a reputable name I know.
 
Thank you N49atv.
 
Still waiting on the ordered LED bulbs here. 
 
I went a local big box hardware store this morning looking. 
 
They had the the C7 LEDs / incandescent bulbs very reasonably priced; so purchased a few.  (cheaper than my order on the internet).
 
Well received and tested the 2 watt LED E12 base warm white LED with clear glass X 20 mentioned above today.
 
They are too bright for the Christmas Candles and very low on the WAF. 
 
I can dim them but not to off.
 
So will try something different maybe before Christmas.
 
Ordered same / similiar 1 watt E12 bulbs.  Cheaper still.
 
The LED bulbs purchased locally while inexpensive are not close in quality to ordered and received LED C7 LED bulbs.
 
pete_c said:
I can dim them but not to off.
 
Hi Pete,
 
If your dimmer can't turn them off, isn't that a dimmer problem rather than a bulb problem?
 
To date I've only experienced LED candelabra bulbs as being not bright enough.  In this particular case I guess what's a bug to you might be a feature to me.   B)
 
I have observed the "can't turn it off" LED bulb phenomenon in a Leviton two wire z-wave switch (not even a dimmer), because it bleeds through some current to power the z-wave, and the small current is enough to keep the LED bulb lit.  Not sure if that applies to your situation or not, but maybe?
 
Thank you ND
 
Still playing and yes that is probably what the issue is (the one you mention).
 
Tested only an old X10 light dimmer module yesterday.
 
I have only one Zigbee mini appliance switch with did work turning it off and on with no bleed; but it doesn't dim.  I will try Z-Wave, UPB and Insteon today.
 
Ordered the 1 watt ones yesterday.  Today doing a ramp up of the incandescent light (its a Christmas effect thing).
 
BTW the quality of these is levels above what I saw cheap at the big box store. 
 
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