Help with configuring a Simply Automated UCQF-W fan controller

I'm using a UPB Simply Automated UCQF-W fan controller that I need help configuring.  I have the switch wired and the high/medium/low/off physical buttons work fine and I can send UPB links to turn on/off the fan (both with buttons and the standard UPB links).  I have the correct UPB links programed for the HAI HLC control so when I turn on or off the room the fan comes on and turns off but I can't turn on the single fan by itself using the unit on/off button.  See the attached screenshots from within Upstart which show my current settings.  I've left the fan as UPB unit ID 52 which is the default. 
 
What UPB link is sent when you send unit on/off?  Any help so I can turn on/off the fan simply by using the on/off command would be appreciated.

Hi:
 
Its interesting that you ask this question because i am almost at the same point as you are.
 
I used plain UPB in my old house, but decided to go HLC in this new house.  I've programmed all the Leviton switches and I like how it all works, but like you, I have these Simply Automated fan control switches because Leviton doesn't make them. 
 
The first kooky thing about this switch is they only give you 4 button, but you need high, med, low, off, and light, which is 5.  So I set mine up so the top three are high, med, and low, and you press them a second time for off.  that way I use the bottom switch to toggle the light. 
 
As you can probably tell by now, this switch isn't the best, but it works.
 
I really don't think you can control it by unit number.  You have to control it by link.  I think you could do some programming to say something like if unit XX is on, then activate xx link.  In unit is off, then deactivate xx link. 

ano said:

Hi:
 
Its interesting that you ask this question because i am almost at the same point as you are.
 
I used plain UPB in my old house, but decided to go HLC in this new house.  I've programmed all the Leviton switches and I like how it all works, but like you, I have these Simply Automated fan control switches because Leviton doesn't make them. 
 
The first kooky thing about this switch is they only give you 4 button, but you need high, med, low, off, and light, which is 5.  So I set mine up so the top three are high, med, and low, and you press them a second time for off.  that way I use the bottom switch to toggle the light. 
 
As you can probably tell by now, this switch isn't the best, but it works.
 
I really don't think you can control it by unit number.  You have to control it by link.  I think you could do some programming to say something like if unit XX is on, then activate xx link.  In unit is off, then deactivate xx link. 

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Ano, thanks for confirming that the Simply Automated fan switch can't be controlled directly via on/off.   I must have read the instructions 5 times and couldn't help but think I was overlooking something.  I added a few lines of programming in the OP2 (see attached screen shot) which seems to work when using the on/off button but isn't working when trying to switch between the two settings.  In other words if I use the Haiku slider and set to 20% it turns the fan on low but if I then switch the setting to anything else (say 50% or 100%) it doesn't switch to medium or high.  If I start at 50% from the off position it turns the fan on to medium but any subsequent changes before coming from the off position have no effect.  It seems the trigger event of "When Living Room Fan On" doesn't trigger other than when starting from 0% or off, this logically makes sense but I couldn't find a way to trigger off a level change.  It's not a big deal as I can always just turn off the fan and then slide to whatever percentage I want for the fan speed level but it would be nice to be able to switch fan speeds without having to always turn off first.
 
Do you have any idea how I can change my programming logic to accommodate level changes?
 
Also, I noted that PC Access logic only includes a "greater than" and "less than" option, there is no "greater than or equal" or "less than or equal" options.  What happens if the level is set to 30% or 70% in my example?

What I would do is just creat a Button for high, medium, low and off, then just use those with Haiku.  It isn't easy to simulate three speeds with a dimmer, because your actions only trigger when the switch is turned on, not when the dim level changes. Any level over 0% is on, so you can change the level, but it is still "on" so it doesn't trigger again.
 
I don't know any way to trigger when the dim level changes. HLC catches the dim level changing on a switch because the switch sends a link 241, and 242 when you tap the switch. I don't think Haiku will send these links when you change the slider, however, and even if it did, the panel only registers the 241 or 242 when its sent from an actual switch.
 
Creating some Buttons might be easiest.

ano said:

What I would do is just creat a Button for high, medium, low and off, then just use those with Haiku.  It isn't easy to simulate three speeds with a dimmer, because your actions only trigger when the switch is turned on, not when the dim level changes. Any level over 0% is on, so you can change the level, but it is still "on" so it doesn't trigger again.
 
I don't know any way to trigger when the dim level changes. HLC catches the dim level changing on a switch because the switch sends a link 241, and 242 when you tap the switch. I don't think Haiku will send these links when you change the slider, however, and even if it did, the panel only registers the 241 or 242 when its sent from an actual switch.
 
Creating some Buttons might be easiest.

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Ano, thanks, yes I had already created some buttons to handle the various fan speeds.   I was just trying to figure out if there was an easy way to control using the Haiku control menu.  I suppose I could create a new room and use scenes A-D to send the UPB Links to set the fan speeds/off.   

Yes you could cread a room and use the A-D scenes. You can us All On and All off also since it would have to be the only switch in the room.
 
While Haiku can control the A-D scenes, but I have Space also, and it seems to be missing that feature. Go figure.
 
Also, it might be good to at least use links 225 - 240 if you are using HLC.  These are free to use.

Finally got one of these.
 
I haven't wired it to a fan and light yet, I have it on my test bench to program.
 
How do you control the light?  How do you assign links to each channel?
 
I see the link transmit options for each button, that makes sense.
 
In the LED section, I see 8 links to control the LEDs.  And all LEDs can be controlled by all links.
 
Do I assume a link that controls the first LED also controls the HIGH speed?
Similarly with the other 3?
 
What happens if I assign more than one LED to a link?
 
Can the light be controlled independently?
Or, does the light simply come on when any of the fan functions are active and off when all of them are off?

The light and fan can be separate. You CAN'T dim the light, its on or off.  Basically it can work two ways, with a light or without a light. If you use a light its the bottom button. Without the light the bottom button can be off. If the bottom button is the light, the fan buttons need a double click or toggle to turn them off. I use the toggle.
 
The switch only receives 8 links which is a pain.
 
The switch has high, medium, and low for fan, but for my fans, low was pretty low, maybe too low.
 
You need to set it so if one fan speed is on, the rest go off.  Don't use more than one at a time. Its high, medium or low. Don't push it. Top button is high, next is medium, next is low, just like its labeled.

If I understand correctly.

The light output turns on whenever #4 LED is illuminated. So that is how you control a light.

Desert_AIP said:

If I understand correctly.

The light output turns on whenever #4 LED is illuminated. So that is how you control a light.

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Yes.  Basically the bottom LED is the light. 

Thanks

Desert_AIP said:

Thanks

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Yeah, not the most logical device.  I use one in the bedroom where I rarely touch the wall switch and where I need the speed control and the speed adjusts based on the temp. But only having 8 receive links is very limiting.  You need 4 just for the fan speeds and off, which only gives you 4 left for light control.  Using HLC alone requires 6, plus its nice to have others for things like all fans off.
 
I've removed them from other rooms and just use the US22-40 now with a double rocker. It gives me a dimmer and then I just use the remote which almost every fan comes with now-a-days anyway.
 
I was thinking of using them for bathroom fans. Might be helpful.

ano said:

 
I was thinking of using them for bathroom fans. Might be helpful.

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This is the application I want to use them in, and the laundry room.
I wish the main LED was the light LED. I can get it to change color in UPStart, but it isn't dynamic.

Desert_AIP said:

This is the application I want to use them in, and the laundry room.
I wish the main LED was the light LED. I can get it to change color in UPStart, but it isn't dynamic.

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Yup, and no timer either.

Remind me how to put this unit in SETUP mode??
 
Says "SETUP MODE When configuring a UPB system, it is necessary to place the UCQF in SETUP mode to initiate self-identification on the powerline. To place the UCQF in SETUP mode press (tap) any button 5 times quickly. The power LED indicator at the top of the unit will continuously blink GREEN when the device is in SETUP mode. To exit SETUP mode and enter NORMAL mode, tap any button two (2) times quickly; the power LED will stop flashing."
 
Thats not working for me. Missing something?