HAI URC integration

I have completed an HAI setup in our new house . With the help from the guys at automated outlet it was a breeze. I have zigbee thermostats and door locks . UPB lighting . Wired door sensor and zigbee window sensors.  I have a home theater system that run with a URC MSC 400 and Mx 980,780. independently everything works they way it should and that is the current problem

I want to be able to tell my home theater system that I want to watch a movie. Then i want HAI to dim movie light set thermostat as needed and began movie. Once the movie is over I want HAI and URC to communicate this to the light to run them back on open blinds it they had been close and any other weird things that I might think up.

Anyone out there have any ideas on how to accomplish this. I am a Diyer. I pride myself in my own work. So far everything has been done by me .I would like option that will allow me to continue in such a way.

I know that HAI has the Home theater extender. HAI is supposed to be able to integrate directly through to URC but I am not sure how that happens. I am also aware that I rule has an HAI module that will allow control ,but not sure if that is what I am after as I don't know if URC would support Irule

Any Help would be nice

Guessing here you can integrate your URC stuff with a Leviton Bitwise AV controller.
 
Leviton AV controllers

Pete you got my attention. How would I connect the 2 devices ?

I have no idea. 
 
I have only read about the integration right here on the forum and went to the Leviton web site yesterday.

lol , well I appreciated it anyways.

I'm no expert either, but I have some HAI gear and some URC gear, and I've done some reading, too.
 
I think all of the official URC/HAI integration has been done with the IP-capable remotes: first the MX-6000, MX-5000, and KP-4000, and then later with Total Control.  You might be able to hack some limited integration using the relays on the MSC-400, as long as you can connect them to HAI zones by wire, but if you want to have more than 2 "macros" you'll have to talk to the HAI panel over IP.  That's if you want to trigger it all from one of the URC remotes.  Going the other way, you could have HAI outputs drive actions on the MSC-400, but it doesn't sound like that's what you want.  To trigger actions that way, you'd use some rule on the HAI panel, or create a button and trigger it with SnapLink or Haiku on your phone.  12V triggers from the HAI panel would be connected to the sensor inputs on the MSC-400.
 
I don't know what the Bitwise controllers can do, but if they have IR sensors and can be trained, you could probably program one to respond to the URC IR (either from the MSC or directly from the remote) and trigger HAI actions.
 
What some people have done, and I plan to do eventually, is use an automation software package (CQC for me) to supervise it all.  I'll create a driver for the MSC-400 that outputs serial commands to CQC, which will then control all of my devices.  I'm inspired by another cocooner who did this with Premise years ago.
 
-Tom

This is a really easy set up. Get the UPB Cim. Connect it to the MSC via RS232. Just have URC send the commands directly to UPB. MUCH faster than URC to HAI to UPB. Do NOT have urc tell hai how to control the lights. No reason to. Let URC control the lights. 
 
Use another rs232 port onthe MSC and have it tell HAI to do whatever you want with the Therm. 
 
You need the free UPB wizard to extract the UPB commands so you can enter then into the URC. Take the commands the wizard give you and add an \x14 to the front of it and it works instantly. Dont his a zillion time. 

You didnt respond to my post on RC where you ask this question. 

Sorry Ranger Digital. I have been crazy swamped with issues at home. I want to get a better idea from you how all this will work.

Ranger Digital said:

This is a really easy set up. Get the UPB Cim. Connect it to the MSC via RS232. Just have URC send the commands directly to UPB. MUCH faster than URC to HAI to UPB. Do NOT have urc tell hai how to control the lights. No reason to. Let URC control the lights. 
 
Use another rs232 port onthe MSC and have it tell HAI to do whatever you want with the Therm. 
 
You need the free UPB wizard to extract the UPB commands so you can enter then into the URC. Take the commands the wizard give you and add an \x14 to the front of it and it works instantly. Dont his a zillion time. 

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 Ranger , so I ordered the CIM last week with with a special urs rs232 cable.  Web mountain has a UPB command wizard which is supposed to be the lat missing piece to this. Where do I add the  "\x14" ? is that in upb command wizard or is that in urc.
 
Are you the same Ranger on Remote Central.

It may be different in the MSC, but the rs232 commands in the Total Control MRX controller requires the \x14 in front of the command. IE, UPB wizard returns the command:
 
0824CE01FF226480 to turn on a light
 
The rs232 command would be
 
\x140824CE01FF226480 from the controller. 
 
You can try it with and with out to see what happens. 

Remember, you will need carriage return enable and the baud is 4800

Ranger Digital said:

It may be different in the MSC, but the rs232 commands in the Total Control MRX controller requires the \x14 in front of the command. IE, UPB wizard returns the command:
 
0824CE01FF226480 to turn on a light
 
The rs232 command would be
 
\x140824CE01FF226480 from the controller. 
 
You can try it with and with out to see what happens. 

Remember, you will need carriage return enable and the baud is 4800

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Ok so I will attempt to use the UPB Wizard. I haven't played with it yet.

Ranger I need your help. So I got the system up and running so far. I want to go ahead and set up the lights that I want my URC MSC 400 to control. URC does not have lighting for SAI, and PCS Lighting Serial systems. How do you get it added to the remote? When I create the device in the system I am only able to get to Database before there appears no place else to go. If it is easier for you to show me than to write it out then we can do that also.