Win 10 - Safe to upgrade?

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tonti

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Guys,
I have recently changed over to a dedicated Windows 7 machine to run Blue Iris for my cameras. I want to be able to get more hardware acceleration out of the machine if I ever need it. 
 
I am wondering if it is safe now to upgrade. I updated the firmware for the M1G and M1XEP. 
 

Hard Ware Boot Firm Ware
M1G 0.13 3.3.6 5.3.10
M1KP 0.10 3.0.14 2.154
M1KP 0.10 3.0.14 2.148
M1KPAS 2.4 1.0.8 1.0.12
M1XIN 0.5 3.0.5 1.3.7
M1XOV(R) 0.2 2.03 1.2.13
M1XEP 1.0 2.0.4 2.0.42

M1G 5.3.10 is the latest and 2.0.42 is the latest for the M1XEP. The ElkRP is 2.0.34. 
All is working after the upgrade.
 
So - should I do this upgrade? 
 
You're really not going to see a difference with RP or the panel if you're at the latest. The XEP is already at a 2.X, so it's not like you have Java embedded to worry about.
 
You need to consider the age of your machine and what software for other things you have on it to determine if you'll see a difference between the 7 and 10 machines and if everything will run without issues.
 
I am not concerned about the ELK performance, its all about the Blue Iris performance. The machine is brand new. Its a HP EliteDesk 800 G2 - Core i7 (Intel Core i7-6700) 3.4GHz - 8GB RAM. So no worry here at all. My cameras record all on 24% of CPU. Its just that Windows 10 offers a graphics acceleration that could be beneficial in the future. I was told that i do not get IntelQuickSync hardware support and h264 video will be decoded in software layer if I stay in Win 7. Also under Windows 7, Blue Iris can't use hardware acceleration and run in service mode at the same time.
So these are all not big issues but Windows 10 is still free to upgrade. 
 
Free upgrade closed in July, I thought.

I dropped back to win 7 on 2/3 machines. Lack of support for my video card and it retried until it locked up. Video card wasn't supported on MoBo with four core 3.2GHz Intel CPU, 5 years old. Eithr new MoBo or go back to win 7 for the mediaPC. Laptop had problems too.

Win 10 is just starting to show where they are going to charge you for all the extras like some of the basics.
 
My biggest issue with W10 is that it reboots and updates when it feels like it - and thought admittedly I haven't tried super hard yet to defeat it, it's really annoying for a machine that's intended to be always-on to reboot at will.
 
Win 10 feels like going back to win3.11 in the 80s with it's grey shades of square window frames instead of rounded, 3D boxes with colours.

I really haven't seen any advantage over win 7 and you just lose more control over your system.

Why is it not a problem for a virus to install anything into any file on any directory but the user is not allowed to access it to delete it due to system protection against damaging access? PoS!
 
Work2Play said:
My biggest issue with W10 is that it reboots and updates when it feels like it - and thought admittedly I haven't tried super hard yet to defeat it, it's really annoying for a machine that's intended to be always-on to reboot at will.
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Actually, I have two machines always on, and found it's not that hard.  In "run" with administrator privilege, I run "services.msc," find windows update, then turn it off and disable it.
 
Then every month or so (when I have an afternoon to watch it), I turn it back on and let it do its thing.  I got the so-called "Anniversary Update" this past weekend, about 3 hours (I wasn't diligently paying attention since there was football on), with several reboots.  When finished and no other updates were available, I disabled Window Update again.  The really annoying thing is I get Cortana and all the other fluff, and I have to turn off several defaults and re-install Classic Shell and Classic Menu (I hate the tiles on a desktop).  I generally like the performance of Win 10 but hate that I have no control over the updates/reboots.
 
I'll have to try disabling windows update...  honestly I was on the road so much this past year, I didn't have the time or energy to care.  But, the other day it forced a reboot while I was in the middle of something, closing anything I hadn't saved.
 
Work2Play said:
I'll have to try disabling windows update...  honestly I was on the road so much this past year, I didn't have the time or energy to care.  But, the other day it forced a reboot while I was in the middle of something, closing anything I hadn't saved.
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You can disable windows 10 automatic updates by unplugging the ethernet cable and setting WIFI as a metered connection. There have been some drawbacks to doing this and I haven't tried it yet but many on the net claim that it works.
 
You also  can completely turn off Cortana with a simple registry edit. This I have done and it's great.
 
I have disabled icloud, disabled Cortana and logged in as a "local user" which logs me out of the Microsoft store and Windows 10 now looks a lot like Windows 7.
 
Mike.
 
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