VERY loud wireless siren needed

mccurdyp

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I have a house in Honduras, which while gated, has the guard shack about 1000 feet away, through very dense foliage. We have neighbors through clearer land that are about 2500 feet away. So the siren needs to be extremely loud and distinct. I have 2 strobe sirens for our system that are supposedly rated at 140 dB, but I can't hear them from the guard station. BTW, neither has a horn - they're just a flat unit.
So I need an extremely loud outdoor siren to add to my Fortress Security system, that would be triggered preferably by a 315 mHZ wireless signal. Another option is to use the mimi phono plug off the main panel.
ANy suggestions from anyone?
 
That's a great idea Mike, but we only have cell service and suspend it when we're not here. I did consider running a line to the guard shack with a buzzer at end :)
 
Look into the piezo screamers as a possible solution.  They are really cheap, just order a couple and try them out (I had some for my friend's house several years ago and just tested them with a nine volt battery to show him how loud they were (had three of them in parallel at the time).
 
I know Moose makes one brand:
 
https://www.amazon.com/Interlogix-MPI-47E-Piezo-Screamer-Siren/dp/B0016LGOC0
 
and another from Automated Outlet:
 
http://www.automatedoutlet.com/product-p/4152.htm
 
They have such low current draw you should be able to run a few directly off of your system (though I'm not familiar with the current output capability of your alarm output with your specific security system).
 
I prefer the Piezo devices as they are loud and are low amperage devices.
 
That said in the old home goofed around with a couple of antiques that were loud and high amperage.  One was a 12" (or large) firehouse circular bell and the other a larger horn air raid style siren (it is very loud).
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys! We have one of those piezo screamers in the house now, but not sure if it would stop someone from just covering their ears with something and continuing to loot us. Ideally, I believe a loud siren that can be heard from guard station is best  solution - our neighbors would hear it too. So something like an air raid siren should certainly do it. I sent an email to Federal Signal Corp as they make all that kind of stuff. I'll let the blog know if they reply.
 
Well too you can visit the dark side and use a 140dB ultrasonic speaker(s)....a dog whistle....this will not so much be heard but will cause nausea and vomiting and pain first then over time it will permanently physiologically damage the hearing apparatus and then scatter some retinal (just the top layer) burning laser light via a disco ball and you will be all set.  The ultrasonic sound typically has an omni directional sense to it because you feel it more than hear it.
 
Ultrasonic Sound...
 
It depends on their intensity or amplitude and tieme of exposure. There is a device of frequency around 20 kHz that were used in public squares in France some years ago to keep younger people out of the square at night, the principle of this device is that only younger people could hear that frequency so in emitting a “semi”-high ultrasonic wave (that propagate in air) the younger people couldn’t stay near the source of the sound causing dissing and headcheese, this work in the same way to keep away mice and mosquitoes.
 
However if you use high intensity ultrasound you could have acoustic cavitation, and that could cause damage (i.e, acoustic cavitation bubbles can destroy objects near them) and the HIFU ultrasound also can make damage to the tissues
 
 
Laser light ...
 
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mccurdyp said:
That's a great idea Mike, but we only have cell service and suspend it when we're not here. I did consider running a line to the guard shack with a buzzer at end :)
 
If the guard shack is always manned, and all you need to do is alert someone posted there, then I think you could use a wireless transmitter/receiver pair to trigger a buzzer or siren or whatever at the guard shack. 
 
These wireless relay transmitter/receivers are one possibility, with 2-mile range.
 
RAL said:
If the guard shack is always manned, and all you need to do is alert someone posted there, then I think you could use a wireless transmitter/receiver pair to trigger a buzzer or siren or whatever at the guard shack. 
 
These wireless relay transmitter/receivers are one possibility, with 2-mile range.
 
The problem with that is powering the buzzer. Is there power in the guard shack?
 
mikefamig said:
The problem with that is powering the buzzer.
 
 
True.  But there would be a similar power problem for a wireless siren.  Though it may be easier to solve the power problem where the siren might be located than at the guard shack. 
 
Dakota alert has some products that may span the gap. Don't know the voltage and frequency you're dealing with there, but might be worth a shot
 
RAL said:
If the guard shack is always manned, and all you need to do is alert someone posted there, then I think you could use a wireless transmitter/receiver pair to trigger a buzzer or siren or whatever at the guard shack. 
 
These wireless relay transmitter/receivers are one possibility, with 2-mile range.
Great idea, but we don't have line of sight to the guard shack. I have considered running a 12V line from our house to guard shack, and then adding a light or buzzer. Not sure if distance would still be an issue though
 
mccurdyp said:
Great idea, but we don't have line of sight to the guard shack. I have considered running a 12V line from our house to guard shack, and then adding a light or buzzer. Not sure if distance would still be an issue though
 
Not having a clear line of sight will reduce the range.  The question is by how much.  If the guard shack is about 1000 feet away without a clear line of sight, there is a good possibility that it will work over that shorter distance.  It's probably worth contacting their technical support and asking what they think.
 
DELInstallations said:
Dakota alert has some products that may span the gap. Don't know the voltage and frequency you're dealing with there, but might be worth a shot
This is a good idea as these products tout great range.  I just wished they made an off the shelf transmitter (2500 models or MURS) that would trigger off of a contact closure.
 
UT2500 has external inputs. Easy enough to connect a relay from the host system (assuming very limited on that unit) to trigger the downstream system. Put the base station in the shack and should be easy enough.
 
2500 base station has relays on it and also a wet contact output @ 400mA. More than enough there. Also advertised range is 1/2 mi, so 1/4 mi should be a realistic number depending on the RF proliferation.
 
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