Shallow Decora-style rocker switch

Ira

Active Member
I'm looking for the shallowest  Decora-style rocker switch I can find. I need to surface mount a light switch to the side of a kitchen (refrigerator) cabinet. I don't want to cut a 2"x3" hole in the cabinet for a regular switch in case we decide to move the switch later, thus the need for surface mount capability. I'm okay with drilling a really small hole in the cabinet for a 22awg 2 conductor cable.
 
My plan is to have the switch wired to a Elk M1G zone, so I only need to drill a really small hole in the cabinet at the switch location. When the M1G sees a zone change from the switch, it will send the corresponding signal to a UPB switch (located in a non-obvious place) to turn the light on/off. I think this will work.
 
It doesn't have to be a Decora switch, but it needs to be something similar, i.e., it looks okay in a home, it's obvious that it is a light switch, it's "big enough", etc. Push on, push off is fine as long as it looks okay. The underlying problem is that the nearest sheetrock wall is about 15' away. I know you can buy 3/4" deep surface mount boxes that can hold regular switches, but I would rather something that's maybe 1/4" deep, plus the faceplate thickness. 
 
Thanks,
Ira
 
carealtor said:
How about an Insteon Mini Remote?
Not really interested in a wireless or battery powered solution. Also, want to integrate with the M1G and UPB, without introducing a new protocol.
 
Elegant surface-mount doorbell, for a momentary contact to the M1?
 
Not sure what style of kitchen you have.
 
How about a Wiremold surface-mount shallow box?
 
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With any rocker, maybe Legrand Adorne?
 
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None of the standard stuff will work because it is all made to hold a standard switch, and a standard switch by itself is probably 1/2" deep (maybe more) behind the switch plate. So the most difficult part will likely be finding a shallow switch. I was hoping that maybe a completely self contained switch (switch, cover, and "box") existed that was 1/4" or less deep, and looked similar to a regular decora switch.
 
There are a few wireless switches that have the look I'm looking for, but I didn't want to go wireless, deal with batteries, etc. The Skylink TB-318 is a good example. For $20, it may be worth buying one to see if it can be gutted to work like a simple dry contact switch.
 
Here still utilize old X10 wireless switches with my OP2 panel.  (IE: UPB, X10, Z-Wave and Zigbee controllers are connected to the OP2 panel today).
 
You can purchase a 2 TW-523's reasonably priced today.  Connect one to your OP2 panel and and one TW523 to one WGL V572 RF Whole House Transceiver for around $85.
 
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Utilize a few old palm pads/x10 slimline switches which are really flat but do not look like decora switches.  I use them today and they work fine for me. 
 
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or
 
Make something using one of these low voltage switches.
 
IE: use a decora wall plate cover and your imagination.
 
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Even if a 1/4" deep surface box existed (the goal I'm shooting for), it wouldn't do any good if the switch is 1/2" deep, without cutting a 1"x3" hole in the cabinet, which is what I'm trying to avoid.
 
Maybe try a flush mounted PulseWorx UPB RF switch. 
 
It would be more than 1/4" deep. 
 
You can just stick this to the side of the cabinet and not wire anything to it.
 
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Don't have the exact device, but how about a 'touch plate' capacitive sensor.  Remotely mount the sensor electronics.  Only the touch plate is exposed.
 
Sorry, I missed the last paragraph of the first post, with stated max depth.
 
Most wired switches are designed so the wires will be hidden by drywall, so you won't find anything wired that is really shallow.
 
You need to raise your minimum depth (for a surface mount solution, in a box), or add another protocol and change batteries (RF).
 
I found some LV solutions, designed for European KNX lighting or automation, but none are very shallow. Look very elegant, however, and prob very expensive options.
 
http://www.meljac.com/Projects-49-en.html
http://www.merten.com/Switch-ranges.10.0.html
http://www.hafeleideasforliving.co.uk/lighting-electrical/electrical.aspx
http://www.gira.com/en/schalterprogramme.html
http://www.lithoss.be/en
http://www.basalte.be/en/news/25/basalte-presents-new-finishes-for-touch-sensitive-switches
 
 
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