Help with HAI Omnipro II 20A04-2 V3.9 eprom chip bin file

papa123

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Hi everyone,
 
I think I have posted my request in the wrong forum, as I have receive no feedback. So, I am giving it a try under this forum.
 
Does anyone have and could share a copy of the latest Omnipro II rom binary file (V3.9 or higher)? I have the chip and the equipment to program the chip. I just need the firmware. I have downloaded the firmware via the PC Access 3, but I'm not sure if the firmware version and addressing is the same for the eprom vs the eeprom TSOP version.
 
Suggestions will be also helpful.
 
Thanks,
Mike
 
 
My understanding is that firmware downloaded with PC Access is loaded on OmniPro's that have flash update ability (they can be directly updated from PC Access.)  Older OmniPro's that need to have the ROM swapped for update generally use a purchased ROM from Leviton/HAI for update.
 
Hi there,
 
Thanks for the quick response. Yes, you are correct and I agree with your understanding. The old controllers have eproms (read-only memory which can be erased, meaning that one can UV erase the chip and reprogram. Some of us have the ability to copy these from another updated chip and program the copy into the new erased chip. Some of the upgrades sold on ebay are copies. There are also some binary files floating around on internet, but unfortunately can't get the one I need. Hopefully, someone have a copy willing to share it.
 
I do have an older controller board which needs an upgrade. I have added the HIFI-2 and my controller needs a minimum of v3.9 upgrade.
 
Anyways, thank you for your input.
 
papa123 said:
I do have an older controller board which needs an upgrade. I have added the HIFI-2 and my controller needs a minimum of v3.9 upgrade.
Its both your minimum and maximum. Leviton has announced they are not releasing chip upgrades starting with v4
 
Maybe someone else will respond who has it available. I don't know if the PC Access downloaded version is the same as the one they use for making EPROM versions.
 
Yes best to purchase the updated EPROM. 
 
I have seen versions before last EPROM versions floating around Ebay.  Personally I wouldn't know how different the flashed update is from the older board EPROM update.  Thinking here still have an old EPROM burner from way back as it has a parallel port cable on it.
 
 
I have attached HAI_OmniPro_II_Version_3.16_(English).cff and HAI_OmniPro_II_Version_4.0b_(English).cff zipped to one file.
 
Not sure if you can edit the files with a hex editor or whatever to update your old EPROM. 
 
zipped files
 
Can you dump the contents of your current eprom and compare it to the same version as delivered by PCA?  This might allow you to see what is different between the two versions and allow you to tweak the PCA version for burning to a chip.
 
pete_c said:
I have attached HAI_OmniPro_II_Version_3.16_(English).cff and HAI_OmniPro_II_Version_4.0b_(English).cff zipped to one file.
 
Not sure if you can edit the files with a hex editor or whatever to update your old EPROM. 
 
zipped files
 
Thanks Pete for the files! I will try to see these work.
 
JonW said:
Can you dump the contents of your current eprom and compare it to the same version as delivered by PCA?  This might allow you to see what is different between the two versions and allow you to tweak the PCA version for burning to a chip.
 
Hi JonW,
 
Mi controller has v3.1 installed. Yes, I could try to dump the eprom and compare it with Pete's files. BTW, for anybody interested in the chip's info, it's an ST M27C801-100F1 (8 Mbit (1Mb x 8) UV EPROM). Most of the old and new programmers will read/burn this chip. The chip is cheap and abundant.
 
What I find it interesting is that the board was already designed for an TSOP flash version under the eprom socket. This means that an old controller could be upgraded by soldering the eeprom directly on the board. From the internet pictures, one could see no physical design differences between boards. However, the board's chip-set will need to match the product type (i.e. OP2 vs Lumina Pro vs OP lite). I'm wondering about the of the flash type and size replacing the epprom in the new boards.
 
Dispite the fact that it is easier to just buy an upgrade, this looks and appears to be an interesting project, which could help a lot of people using old boards and a money saver.    
 
Yes too the old board only has 3 serial ports plus the X10 TW523 port.  The traces are there for the additional serial ports.
 
I have seen these boards thrown out by new installers of conventional alarm panels mostly cuz they know nothing of them and even as old as they are the are levels above in complexity over your regularly installed alarm panel board.
 
 
Truly now officially Leviton HAI has sunsetted the older boards with their recent firmware version announcement.
 
pete_c said:
Truly now officially Leviton HAI has sunsetted the older boards with their recent firmware version announcement.
 
Two things come to mind regarding Leviton's decision to drop support for the older boards.
 
First reason is the fact that some people have copied their chip and resale it on ebay and other places. Second reason is that by continuing to support the old boards the upgrades will keep the old boards alive and well. These are very sturdy boards hat last forever.  The new boards are not cheap and in both cases Leviton is loosing profits!
 
I am sure that with the right attitude and desire, despite Leviton's support drop, the boards could unofficially be kept alive.  
 
Maybe Leviton is going to drop support to the Omnipro 2 board altogether and come-up with the 3rd generation! 
 
papa123 said:
Two things come to mind regarding Leviton's decision to drop support for the older boards.
 
First reason is the fact that some people have copied their chip and resale it on ebay and other places. Second reason is that by continuing to support the old boards the upgrades will keep the old boards alive and well. These are very sturdy boards hat last forever.  The new boards are not cheap and in both cases Leviton is loosing profits!
 
I am sure that with the right attitude and desire, despite Leviton's support drop, the boards could unofficially be kept alive. 
I can't believe they would drop support because of all the replacement chip revenue they are loosing because people are making their own chips. You meant that as a joke, right?
 
Could it be that they are dropping support because this board was introduced close to 18 years ago, and they have since introduced an inproved replacement board quite a while ago?  I think if you look, you won't find many companies supporting products they introduced 18 years ago.
 
papa123 said:
Maybe Leviton is going to drop support to the Omnipro 2 board altogether and come-up with the 3rd generation! 
Oh, the old Repeal and Replace argument. :rofl:   I'll believe that when I see it.  
Remember that Leviton is not in business just to make "cool" stuff, they are in business to make a profit.  The world has changed enormously since the Omnipro II was released. I have by doubts if any Omnipro III could be half as successful today.
 
ano said:
I can't believe they would drop support because of all the replacement chip revenue they are loosing because people are making their own chips. You meant that as a joke, right?
 
Could it be that they are dropping support because this board was introduced close to 18 years ago, and they have since introduced an inproved replacement board quite a while ago?  I think if you look, you won't find many companies supporting products they introduced 18 years ago.
 
Oh, the old Repeal and Replace argument. :rofl:   I'll believe that when I see it.  
Remember that Leviton is not in business just to make "cool" stuff, they are in business to make a profit.  The world has changed enormously since the Omnipro II was released. I have by doubts if any Omnipro III could be half as successful today.
Well, in my humbled opinion OP2 is still the most complete, stable all-in one security/automation/entertainment system out there. Not quite sure what additions will make this system better than what the world has to offer? Hmm, maybe voice command, but that could be accomplished in some way or another.
 
I agree.

The Leviton OmniPro and Elk M1 combo panels still most complete stable all in one security/automation/entertainment system out there.


Both work fine without any eye candy and no external dependencies.

That said new generation is being molded to a new methodology of security / automation based in the cloud as a dependency with smart phone remote controls.

That is the way it is today.

It is similar to software/OS rental versus purchasing today.

Once you purchase an OmniPro 2; you own it. Leviton doesn't make any reoccurring revenue from it so they are losing money these days unless you sign up with their email cloud application. Elk and Leviton too will be probably shifting over to the cloud for reoccurring revenues.t
 
It is assumed that the home today is connected to the Internet 24/7.  Unlike the old copper telephone line of yesteryear; there are no guarantees of QOS with your alway on Internet connection such that I personally wouldn't lean on the ISP connection for any life and safety issues.

Like the old LP record; automation / security hardware based at home will soon be just looked at in a historical sense.

Over the years here have always integrated text to speech and voice recognition. Text to speech came with my first combo security panel of the 1980's that had integrated just X10 and bits of words to manually make whole words.

Later in the 1990's started to integrate (with software) Microsoft SAPI text to speech and voice recognition.

Lately wanting to keep this stuff going have integrated the use of the MS Kinect at home. It all works without an Internet connection here.

(note also tinkering here with Amazon Echo and Google and Smarthings and Securifi and ... cloud based stuff).

BTW relating to the Securifi stuff (Almond) from the get go was a request to hard switch off the cloud connection. It is present today if you want to use it in this way.

All of the above stuff though is DIY'd integration with software automation.

Today folks want an off the shelf plug n play solution; easy button combination security/automation/entertainment.

18 year old technology with no bells and whistles today just doesn't really work for the average consumer of automation / security today.

Personally my OmniPro panel does control my Russound zoned audio. But that is all it does. I have kept the media separate sort of.

I use my automation touchscreens to play back media but they are not needed to play back media if that makes any sense?

Having to wire up an analogue 2-4 wires to the panel is foreign and much too difficult when a simple wireless sensor with a battery works (sort of).

It will go to a sort of DIY combo security / automation offering in a kit from your ISP for the monthly rate of $59.95 where you just stick tape all your sensors wherever you want with a 5 year no exit contract. Easy button stuff as you will be charged for said hardware along with your monthly reoccurring costs.  Well sort of like automobile leasing today paid for by the month. 
 
Pete,
 
I too agree to most of your comments. I too, like to be in complete control of my environment and security of my home.
 
Maybe is paranoia kinking in, but I believe that cloud based technology with a middle party controlling your personal security and automation devices has a hidden agenda. Why in the name of rationality, anyone would compromise their privacy by adopting cloud technology? I was proven time and time again that internet and wireless technology is not safe!
 
I still use local wireless devices, but reliability is a big thing for me.
 
In the end it is just a matter on individual's opinion and their preferences.
 
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