I recently moved into a new (to me) house that has an existing Moose Z1100R security system. From what I can tell there are some wired door sensors, a motion sensor and a siren. I would like to replace it with a newer system that I can integrate with my HA system (Home Assistant). Is there any system that would allow me to use the existing sensors plus add some additional wireless sensors for windows and doors?
Replacement for Moose Z1100R
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Sure. The full-on home automation controllers are the Leviton/HAI OMNIs and the ELK. The Leviton Omni's come in a few different levels depending on how big your system can get. If you definitely have a small house with limited funds then one of the smaller controllers would work, but most people generally go for the highest version which is the Omni Pro II. The price differences aren't that great, so sometimes its better to overshoot than to start small and outgrow it.
On the Elk side there is the M1 Gold which is pretty capable.
As for a step below, there are the security panels with some home automation features. Home automation was more of an afterthought to these, but if you have a limited budget they might work for you. Maybe the Honeywell Vista 21IP would be a place to start.
So these panels range from maybe $200 to about $1300 but that is JUST for the controller. You will need console(s) more sensors, wireless then also some home automation switches.
My advice is to but the best controller you can, then just add pieces over time. You can add home automation later and focus on security first. But don't skimp in the controller, because that is the ultimate limiting factor in many ways.
On the Elk side there is the M1 Gold which is pretty capable.
As for a step below, there are the security panels with some home automation features. Home automation was more of an afterthought to these, but if you have a limited budget they might work for you. Maybe the Honeywell Vista 21IP would be a place to start.
So these panels range from maybe $200 to about $1300 but that is JUST for the controller. You will need console(s) more sensors, wireless then also some home automation switches.
My advice is to but the best controller you can, then just add pieces over time. You can add home automation later and focus on security first. But don't skimp in the controller, because that is the ultimate limiting factor in many ways.
pete_c
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Googled Home Assistant alarm panels and found the following.
Analog sensors / wires can be tested and reused for just about any alarm panel. Only thing is the EOL resistor values might be different.
Personally I would check each sensor one by one where all of the wires come together. Maybe label them. You can test them with a VOM.
Then maybe chose an alarm that is in the list and check to may sure there are wireless options with the alarm.
The list appears to have virtual and physical alarms in it. Note that this is only related to your use of Home Assistant.
Here utilize a Leviton OmniPro 2 panel and Automation software called Homeseer.
All this depends on whether you want to continue to utilize Home Assistant or want to venture to something else. That said you can reuse all of your wired sensors.
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Analog sensors / wires can be tested and reused for just about any alarm panel. Only thing is the EOL resistor values might be different.
Personally I would check each sensor one by one where all of the wires come together. Maybe label them. You can test them with a VOM.
Then maybe chose an alarm that is in the list and check to may sure there are wireless options with the alarm.
The list appears to have virtual and physical alarms in it. Note that this is only related to your use of Home Assistant.
Here utilize a Leviton OmniPro 2 panel and Automation software called Homeseer.
All this depends on whether you want to continue to utilize Home Assistant or want to venture to something else. That said you can reuse all of your wired sensors.
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pete_c
Guru
Googled Home Assistant alarm panels and found the following.
Analog sensors / wires can be tested and reused for just about any alarm panel. Only thing is the EOL resistor values might be different.
Personally I would check each sensor one by one where all of the wires come together. Maybe label them. You can test them with a VOM.
Then maybe chose an alarm that is in the list and check to may sure there are wireless options with the alarm.
The list appears to have virtual and physical alarms in it. Note that this is only related to your use of Home Assistant.
Here utilize a Leviton OmniPro 2 panel and Automation software called Homeseer.
All this depends on whether you want to continue to utilize Home Assistant or want to venture to something else. That said you can reuse all of your wired sensors.
Analog sensors / wires can be tested and reused for just about any alarm panel. Only thing is the EOL resistor values might be different.
Personally I would check each sensor one by one where all of the wires come together. Maybe label them. You can test them with a VOM.
Then maybe chose an alarm that is in the list and check to may sure there are wireless options with the alarm.
The list appears to have virtual and physical alarms in it. Note that this is only related to your use of Home Assistant.
Here utilize a Leviton OmniPro 2 panel and Automation software called Homeseer.
All this depends on whether you want to continue to utilize Home Assistant or want to venture to something else. That said you can reuse all of your wired sensors.
I compared the Elk to the Omni a few years back and chose the Elk.
I found that the Omni is more expensive up front mainly because the panel on the Omni has several serial ports that add to it's cost while the Elk has only one. The Elk is a more basic, less expensive panel but you can add adapters ala carte to make it just as capable as the Omni.
In my case I used the on-board serial port for the ethernet adapter and later had to add one additional serial port to control UPB lighting. Many adapters/addons require the use of a serial port so it is best to know in detail what your needs are before attempting to choose a system. I thought at the outset that I would only need the one for ethernet so I chose the Elk.
Mike.
I found that the Omni is more expensive up front mainly because the panel on the Omni has several serial ports that add to it's cost while the Elk has only one. The Elk is a more basic, less expensive panel but you can add adapters ala carte to make it just as capable as the Omni.
In my case I used the on-board serial port for the ethernet adapter and later had to add one additional serial port to control UPB lighting. Many adapters/addons require the use of a serial port so it is best to know in detail what your needs are before attempting to choose a system. I thought at the outset that I would only need the one for ethernet so I chose the Elk.
Mike.
