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Poll: "Yanny" or "Laurel"

Do you hear Yanny or Laurel in the attached You Tube clip.

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#1 pete_c

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:10 AM

 

 



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:12 AM

Do You Hear "Yanny" or "Laurel"? (SOLVED with SCIENCE)

 

 

All of this was really just a Monday morning wake up post to fellow Cocoontech folks.

 

BTW went to get gas this afternoon at a gas station that continuously runs news briefs and advertisements on it's integrated to the pump LCD monitors and saw a little news item related to Yanny and Laurel while I was getting gas.



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:59 AM

I want option #3, I don't care.

 

I know that my brain gets influence by things around it when I can't quite hear/understand what's being said. That's  we get things '... 'scuse me while I kiss this guy... " instead of ' ... 'scuse me while I kiss the sky ... '

 

 

On that stupid dress I saw brown and blue depending on the monitor I was looking through.

 

PS: I'm not grumpy, I'm tired of stupid. Now get off mt lawn. ;-) (forgot the smiley)


Edited by linuxha, 21 May 2018 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:00 AM

It's weird - when I first heard this, all I could hear was Yanny.  This morning, I heard Yanny at first, but could still hear Laurel - then 15 minutes later, all I hear is Laurel. 



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:23 AM

OK so modified poll for multiple choices.

 

Really this is just a random post with a poll attached to it and will be followed by a logical explanation in the next couple of days.

 

Today's personal highlights involve passing thunderstorms and watching lightning sensors and playing with Node Red and playing with dimming levels on new LED lamps comparing them to the old incandescent lamps...well boring stuff I suppose....

 

and seeing random mentions  / blurbs relating to yanny or laurel which didn't really make any sense to me....



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 01:23 PM

Gag me with a spoon........................Totally



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 02:37 PM

To me this seems like an audio version of a color blindness test.  The audio clip contains both sounds, and which one you hear depends on the sensitivity of your hearing at different frequencies.  I suspect older folks with  some high frequency hearing loss will mostly hear "laurel," while younger folks that are better able to hear higher frequencies will mostly hear "yanny."

 

Here's a tool to let you play with the frequency response.

 

https://www.nytimes....rel-debate.html

 

Edit:  Not sure what happened with the link.  Cocoontech seems to hijack it and redirect it to a Wayfair ad.  If you get that, just click on "continue to the NY Times" under the Wayfair logo.


Edited by RAL, 21 May 2018 - 02:42 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 05:23 PM

@Ral,

 

Here link above went right to the NY Times. 

 

Running Firefox ad blocker / ghostery here plus using PFSense PFBlocker (and other PFSense plugins).



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Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:14 PM

Pete - if you place your mouse on the link, what you see at the bottom of the display is a link to the NY Times.


But when I right click and copy the link, and paste it elsewhere, I get a link that goes to a url of redirect.viglink.com.

 

[Edit]: I tried pasting the full link here, but it gets wiped out for some reason.
 
From Wikipedia entry on Viglink:
 
VigLink is a San Francisco-based, outbound-traffic monetization service for publishers, forums, and bloggers. VigLink specializes in in-text advertising and marketing
 
The company’s technology, VigLink Insert, scans a page for words that could be potentially profitable to the publisher of the page, and connects the keyword with a product from an affiliate program. The publisher is paid when a reader clicks a link contained in the content to buy or learn more about a service or product.

 
My conclusion is that Cocoontech is using Viglink to raise revenue.

You can opt out of Viglink so that you aren't bothered by its garbage.


Edited by RAL, 21 May 2018 - 11:25 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 07:04 AM

Yes see that now.

 

A copy and paste shows:

 

hxxps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html

 

This probably because of Ghostery running.

 

Looking at Ghostery see that it is blocking 5 trackers.

 

1 - 2 advertising trackers which are:  DoubleClick and Viglink

2 - Google Analytics

3 - Facebook connect and Google + connect.

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5 trackers total.



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Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:13 AM

I've said from the start that the media was playing back two different recordings because one time I would hear laurel and another time I would hear yanny. If you have laurel recorded at a low frequency and yanny recorded at a higher frequency and you mix the two electronically then your ear and brain will determine what you hear.

 

However if the TV news plays the recording back one time with the bass filtered and the treble turned up you will hear yanny. If they use their audio mixer to filter highs and turn up the bass you will hear laurel. It's the same as if you have a piece of music with a bass and a cymbal. Turn up the high frequencies and hear cymbals, turn up the low frequencies and hear the bass guitar.

 

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