Wired contacts converted to Zwave signal?

chasers03

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I have many 12v contacts which I would like to convert to a Zwave signal to use with Ring Security. Can it be done?
 
I think a lot of the solutions will be one-off, meaning you're using a module per zone - so you could easily have 8-16 modules in one place.  This isn't z-wave and requires a hub like smarthings or hubitat, but this solution is designed to convert an old alarm panel to something modern: https://konnected.io 
 
On rereading your original post, I saw you're looking to use Ring security - I'm not sure if that'd work with it - but if you can use a hub as an intermediary, it might - or if you haven't bought the Ring yet, maybe you can put something together with that...  Just another option.
 
The Ring amarl system uses Zwave, so you shouldn't need a second controller.  If the Ring has support for other devices is a different matter.
 
Some Z-Wave Door/Window sensors have the capability to use external contact closure (instead of using the supplied magnet) and provide terminal inputs (inside the unit) for this connection.
 
I used THIS unit for my washer monitor (sends a ZWave command when its finished using a photo-transistor covering an indicator light, then its output is connected to the external sensor input). 
 
I'm not positive but I doubt the Ring system accepts inputs from Z-Wave sensors. While most wireless alarm systems these days can control Z-Wave lights, locks and thermostats, they are only activated for an alarm by compatible wireless sensors (usually proprietary RF sensors).
 
Retail home automation systems on the other hand, often try and double as alarm systems and therefore will accept inputs from Z-Wave sensors.

It's a matter of Z-Wave controller class designation and Z-Wave not being reliable enough for the alarm industry to use as input sensors.
 
SterlingDonnelly said:
I'm not positive but I doubt the Ring system accepts inputs from Z-Wave sensors. While most wireless alarm systems these days can control Z-Wave lights, locks and thermostats, they are only activated for an alarm by compatible wireless sensors (usually proprietary RF sensors).
 
Retail home automation systems on the other hand, often try and double as alarm systems and therefore will accept inputs from Z-Wave sensors.

It's a matter of Z-Wave controller class designation and Z-Wave not being reliable enough for the alarm industry to use as input sensors.
 
A quick search would have given you the answer.
 
https://shop.ring.com/products/alarm-contact-sensor
 
That is their site and it is an alarm contact sensor.
 
The specs:
Tech Specs




Power


3V Lithium Battery Included





Battery Life


~3 Years





Operating Conditions


32°F to 120°F (0°C to 49°C)





Dimensions


3.23 in. x 0.98 in. x 0.94 in. (8.2 cm. x 2.5 cm. x 2.4 cm.)





Connectivity


Z-Wave (250-foot range to Base Station)





Installation


Mounts to Door and Window Frames





Maximum Distance Between Sensors


5/8 inches





Setup Requirements


Ring Alarm Kit





Warranty


1 year limited warranty
 
Notice that the connectivity states Z-Wave.
 
The question still remains if the Ring system would know what to do with a Mimo+ unit.  Someone would with a Ring would need to buy it and try it.
 
Ah, good find. While surprising, it's not that unusual as the Ring wasn't made by a traditional security industry manufacturer and therefore the normal industry rules don't apply.
 
And yes, like you said, just because it uses Z-Wave sensors as inputs, its still not clear that it would accept inputs from non-Ring Z-Wave sensors.
 
They probably went Z-Wave because they could buy the sensors cheaper.  Think about the R&D they didn't have to do.
 
I don't trust any of the Ring products.
 
I have heard people were able to add non Ring products to the alarm though.
 
I purchased this https://www.zwaveproducts.com/shop/brands/ecolink/dwzwave2-5-eco-ecolink-z-wave-plus-door-window-sensor-dwzwave2-5-eco for its contacts [which I could connect to the Omni Pro II] but no matter how I got it integrated into the Ring Security Base Station [it was accepted easily] it would only be recognized as a door/window contact not my desired smoke alarm.  Therefore it would only activate the Ring Security during its Armed modes and not when the Ring is disarmed as a Smoke Alarm would do. 
 
So I am now back to using the Ring Smoke Listener to be located next to the Omni Pro alarm speaker to trigger the Ring system when its speaker sounds off for a fire or burglar alarm.
 
Zwave + with the Ring Base Station must have some method of differentiating an open/close contact from a smoke alarm trigger?  I had hoped that it would be during the set up that the trigger would activate the security during all modes like a panic button would?
 
The Ring device setups are very easy and user friendly and function at over 200 feet distances....  Wish there was also a way to integrate the OP Zwave with the Ring Zwave but that would be asking way too much.
 
Ring doesn't care about interoperability.  Not like they have a published API either that people can use; there are hacks that people have implemented via reverse engineering though.
 
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