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Home Automation - the home will outlast its brain - then what ?


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#1 swb_mct

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 03:54 PM

10 years ago we rebuilt a family cabin and re-wired it to control Lighting/HVAC/Well-Pump and Other with an HAI OMNI-II system. I made a 2 year hobby out of programming the system including lighting-scene automation based on the security-modes and about 8 exterior motion detectors. I just now had to add power-ventilation and powered-dampers to manage a humidity/mildew problem in an inaccessible crawl space. Another 15 lines of code to run ventilation conditional on seasonal and real-time weather variables.

This property is in an extended family covenant and will remain in the family for the next generation. Someone is going to be ticked-off when they learn its going to cost 'a fortune' to have a commercial provider come in to replace all Security / Lighting and HVAC controls with a new platform. We didn't wire for high-voltage switching in many conventional locations so it won't be easy to revert to an unprogrammed system.

Now that I have said that, I guess it will be up to me to finance having all this stuff replaced and updated eventually.

There is no real point to this post, but just wondering if others wonder about the sunset-factor of their home automation efforts.

ONE SPECIFIC QUESTION
We have 2 two stage HAI thermostats - How long can I plan on having a replacement available - Does Leviton have an end-of-life policy on HAI components ? Or should I buy critical items preemptively ?


Edited by swb_mct, 04 September 2019 - 04:26 PM.


#2 LarrylLix

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 04:24 PM

I am hoping my home doesn't get early onset Alzheimer's with an ISY HA system. Sent using Tapatalk

#3 StarTrekDoors

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 11:21 AM

Like everything, you cannot count on things to last forever.  Your concern about the wiring is only relevant today but imagine houses built in the 1800's that had no electricity.  No one even knew what electricity was, so as the world around the 1800's houses changed, adaptations became necessary.  If family will be ticked-off for receiving a no cost family cabin, they should be reminded they are family.

 

You cannot count on having the same brand and model of thermostat available for any home; even if you buy spares now, the capacitors and components can degrade over time and the "spare" may only last a few months of fail without expectation. Many people don't realize digitally printed photos will only last so long as the inks degrade; same is true of even CD's and DVD's.   One should always have spares for "critical" items otherwise you're like the person restoring an old car; it may take years to find a throttle level, a door handle, or even the simplest part.

 

EOL policy is that once nothing is available; nothing is available.  Of course you may find a good tech that does circuit board repairs....



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Posted 08 September 2019 - 03:40 PM

  • I too have about 1400 OPII program lines with 60 UPB dimmers, 4 stats, 4 locks, HiFi2x16 zones, 10 outputs, 40 security contacts, motions, smokes, temps, & humidity and am wondering the same thing. 
  • Within a year or two the OP II, thermostats, & WiFi will not be repairable or replaceable with like hardware.
  • Soooo what to do to transition to a replacement automation system?  I am hoping that someone will come along with a modern home automation all inclusive replacement & which I can program as easily. 
  • Maybe Echo/Alexa and their connectivity device partners + routines will be the able to do the job?


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Posted 09 September 2019 - 12:50 AM

  • I too have about 1400 OPII program lines with 60 UPB dimmers, 4 stats, 4 locks, HiFi2x16 zones, 10 outputs, 40 security contacts, motions, smokes, temps, & humidity and am wondering the same thing. 
  • Within a year or two the OP II, thermostats, & WiFi will not be repairable or replaceable with like hardware.
  • Soooo what to do to transition to a replacement automation system?  I am hoping that someone will come along with a modern home automation all inclusive replacement & which I can program as easily. 
  • Maybe Echo/Alexa and their connectivity device partners + routines will be the able to do the job?

I see 4G technology replacing WiFi and all other RF signals in the house.






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