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#1 pete_c

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Posted 06 September 2019 - 09:04 AM

Here started with a Ring Doorbell. It was easy to install and worked fine with my doorbell wires and interconnectivity to my OmniPro 2 panel

 

My set up here is a bit propietary and uses two Elk boards (Elk 930 and 924) to connect to the OmniPro 2 alarm panel.

 

I am not tethered here to my smart phone (never have been).

 

While I like the Ring Doorbell I cannot connect it to my home CCTV DVR so switching here to a

 

Hikvision OEM RCA Doorbell

 

hxxps://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/home-security/?sku=HSDB2A

 

Features:

 

Easy Installation: Connect the RCA Video Doorbell Camera to your existing doorbell wiring and to your 2.4 or 5 GHz WiFi network

 

Everything you need to install is included (requires an 8-24V AC transformer, existing working doorbell and electric drill)

 

Watch over your home with 3MP ultra high-definition video and live streaming; captures 50% more detail than full 1080p HD

 

Free recording of hundreds of events on the included 16GB micro SD card

 

Receive instant alerts when motion is detected using the free RCA Security All-For-One app and monitor your door from anywhere on your smartphone or tablet

 

ONVIF

 

Works with Amazon Alexa

 

Works with OmniPro touch (JPG captures)

 

 

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Posted 10 September 2019 - 08:59 AM

Update 10th of September, 2019
 
Well first purchase of the RCA OEM Hikvision doorbell was a dud. 
 
I was sent a used one already registered which came yesterday.  This morning called and got a return label and getting a refund. 

 

Update #2

 

Before returning the camera I was able to get it going and testing streaming, JPG pictures and storage of events.  Worked great.

 

Like this way better than the Ring (which is still running).  Found a Hikvision branded doorbell this afternoon and ordered it.
 



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Posted 12 September 2019 - 02:40 PM

Update 12th of September, 2019
 
Here is the link to the doorbell that I purchased.
 
It is called a Hikvision OEM.  It is also sold by Voxx (old Audiovox) under an RCA label (looks like RCA / Voxx) is in to smart automation / security et al.
 
Part number NBD 313-W / 16
 
Available on Amazon and Ebay...prices are all over the place.
 
• 3MP Sensor, 2048*1536 Resolution.
• View from head to toe of visitors, Vertical 180°FOV.
• PIR Detection Sensor, up to 5M
• Auto human detection with customized detection area adjustment to avoid the false alarm.
• IP65 rated. Dustproof and Waterproof.
• Built-in Microphone & Speaker
• All in one SmartPhone APP
• Easy to install with your existing doorbell system
• Dual band Wi-Fi Supports dual-band Wi-Fi, 2.4 and 5.0 GHz
• Two Ways to Save your recordings Micro SD Card and Cloud Storage
 
Works with any generic DVR.  Android / iOS apps.
 
It is around the same size as the Ring 1 and 2.  The PIR is the same size as the doorbell button.  Comes with faceplates and muliple brackets.
 
You can use your browser to see it on your network via two streams or via JPG stills. 

BTW the Alexa Show application for the IP camera is a direct connection between the camera and Alexa Show...it is not in the cloud.

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 01:30 PM

I can't find any details about the Alexa Show app. Do you have a link with the details on that? also wondering if anybody has set this up on Blue Iris?



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Posted 13 September 2019 - 05:16 PM

Found a bunch of info on the IPCamtalk forums relating to the HikVision WiFi doorbell.

 

IPCamTalk forum users have configured it to work with Blue Iris. 

 

New RCA HSDB2A 3MP Doorbell IP Camera

 

Here tested the "dud" camera and got it working with two streams and did JPG captures with it.

 

For Alexa you would utilize the generic IP RTSP application that I posted about over here ==>

 

hxxp://cocoontech.com/forums/topic/31745-monocle-amazon-alexa-gateway-service/

 

Note this application is a direct connection between the camera and the Amazon Show.

 

It also works with the RCA / Voxx doorbell iOS and Android apps.



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Posted 13 September 2019 - 08:05 PM

OK Thanks. I tried using Monocle with my existing cameras but never got it working. I should go back and figure that out before trying it with a new camera.



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Posted 13 September 2019 - 09:48 PM

I had some issues with it in the beginning.  I posted on the Monocle about it over here ==> hxxps://forum.monoclecam.com/topic/206/unknowed-brand-ipcam/23
 
I am petec on the monoclecam forum.

IE: for the new testing 5MP "smart" cam boards the feeds is:

rxxp://192.168.244.151/user=admin_password=password_channel=1_stream=0.sdp?real_stream

Microphone worked great.

for the Hikvision doorbell camera the feed isn't password protected:

rxxp://192.168.244.151/

I test here using VLC.

The camera(s) work with the OmniPro 2 panel Omnitouch screens, Homeseer Touch, ZoneMinder (http://zoneminder.com) (and new CCTV), Android, iOS and the new Alexa Show devices.

BTW all of the new cloud Smartcams are using same basic OS and today are ONVIF compatible and programmable such that I can program them via ONVIF software and the Dahua / Hikvision camera managers.

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Posted 14 September 2019 - 07:57 AM

Would prefer to trigger an alert only when non-family members are detected (the minority of events.)
Feasibly?

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Posted 14 September 2019 - 08:06 AM

The Hikvision 3MP doorbell is utilizing a generic PIR for motion alarm detection and the press of the doorbell button.
 
They are little computers as they were before but have more memory and OS space.
 
I am guessing next generation of 10-20 MP video doorbells will have facial recognition.  That is the push right now of the higher MP camera boards.

The higher MP boards are not really expensive at around $100-$200. The el cheapo 5MP boards are only $25.

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Posted 15 September 2019 - 09:45 AM

Would be interested to hear experiences of situations where:
1) video doorbell was shown to be responsible for prevention of breakin(s)
2) video was used in apprehension/prosecution of individual
 
Or, for those who have them installed, is it largely a convenience (e.g. ability to speak to person at door w/o opening, or remotely), and/or largely an increased sense of security or safety?

Edited by mtgoat, 15 September 2019 - 09:46 AM.


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Posted Today, 07:51 AM

New doorbell arrived yesterday...been tinkering with it.

What I like is that it comes with different colored faceplates and multiple bases. The box it came in is very generic with no MFG labels. Just the scan code / serial number et al on the outside of the box.

Note that the dud doorbell which was returned had been already registered and it came with some hardware but not all of it.

It is way more functional than the Ring Doorbell but not as aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

hikvision


Here is a picture of my test configuration using a spare AC transformer and current wiring of doorbell via ELK phone board and debounce board.

HikVisionDrawing

 
Works fine with the Windows ONVIF manager program and the Hikvision Camera manager program and Android manager program.
 
I liked the HikVision ap the best versus the RCA and Viz. Using the Android Hikvision application I added the testing #1 openboard camera. Ordered another open board camera last week. This new one has a 28mm lens.
 
Testing it with a 18 VAC transformer connected to it.
 
Here are some screen shots.
 
 
doorbell

doorbell 2


Noticed that the Doorbell and transformer (test transformer) were getting a bit warm.

On a few sites read to use a 24VAC transformer. (IE: current 18 VAC transformer is working fine with the Ring Doorbell and the two Elk boards (doorbell and ).

Purchased a 24 VAC doorbell transformer today from Amazon.

Endurance Pro 24V 40VA Thermostat/Doorbell Transformer, Power Supply Compatible with Nest, Ecobee, Sensi, Honeywell Thermostat, Nest Hello Doorbell and All Versions of Ring Doorbell 2 Wire Nuts Inc

Gonna wait to install it outside until new transformer is in place.

Here is a video of the doorbell installation and Blue Iris configuration.






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