Nextalarm going bye bye

heffneil

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Nextalarm is going away at the end of June.  Quite a surprised to me.  Just got the email today.
 
Anyone have any recommendations for me to get someone to monitor over phone line?  I am just a single residence - and don't want to tie in with any alarm company for a long term committement.
 
 
Thanks!
 
Neil
 
 
Thank you for the heads up Neil.
 
I did not get an email.  Here have been a customer of theirs over 20 years now.
 
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What is the advantage of having an alarm monitoring service over having a system that contacts you directly via several redundant methods (text, email, phone call, etc.) and tells you the problem so you can call 911 or initiate some other appropriate action?

The reason I ask is because I am coming to distrust pretty much any service based product these days. Whether it be a cable/satellite/streaming service for entertainment, streaming music services, automation products that depend on an Internet connection to operate, or programs or devices that have to phone home to continue to function, it seems as if they have all let me down over the past few years and done so in a way that has inconvenienced me to a degree that far outweighs the total value I got from them during the entire lifesycle that I used them.
 
upstatemike said:
What is the advantage of having an alarm monitoring service over having a system that contacts you directly via several redundant methods (text, email, phone call, etc.) and tells you the problem so you can call 911 or initiate some other appropriate action?
Hum, never thought about this option.. 
 
Insurance rates may be different. Many insurance companies eher don't care what gadgets you have installed. They only want to know about Pro installed and locally monitored systems.
 
Mine gave me a partial discount for a self-monitored system but I think it is only for monitoring water leaks. 
 
What am I going to do when I get a text message the next morning on a cruise ship in the Carribean without WiFi? MY water would shut off automatically and I would call a neighbour to investigate. If I call the cops on a false alarm they will warn me first, fine me second, and then never respond to that address again.
 
I've had good luck with Next Alarm over the past 20 plus years.  The yearly insurance discounts are not what they used to be.  
 
upstatemike said:
What is the advantage of having an alarm monitoring service over having a system that contacts you directly via several redundant methods (text, email, phone call, etc.) and tells you the problem so you can call 911 or initiate some other appropriate action?

The reason I ask is because I am coming to distrust pretty much any service based product these days. Whether it be a cable/satellite/streaming service for entertainment, streaming music services, automation products that depend on an Internet connection to operate, or programs or devices that have to phone home to continue to function, it seems as if they have all let me down over the past few years and done so in a way that has inconvenienced me to a degree that far outweighs the total value I got from them during the entire lifesycle that I used them.
 
When I lived in Las Vegas, NV due to high burglary break-in's, I had my Elk system monitored by Alarm Monitoring Services.  I met the owners at an ISC West Convention in Las Vegas and convinced them to look into monitoring DIY systems, of which I was the first.  This was over eight years ago.
 
In Las Vegas, Police would not respond to a burglar alarm call (even from a monitoring service like ADT) UNLESS there was video (or eyewitness) verification that a break-in was 'in progress' due to the high false alarm callouts.  ADT solved this by having their own employees respond to alarms, but the monthly cost for this service was very high (as was any 'armed response' company).
 
I had internal IP cameras that would turn on during an alarm and send motion detected snapshots to my Internet host site.  I then had a program written by Dan (electron) that created thumbnail images of that directory and gave the monitoring service the URL so they would be able to see these thumbnail images and click on them to expand if needed.
 
As part of my service, they agreed to IP monitor my Elk (as I didn't have a land line and didn't want cellular with it) then when an alarm was received call our phone numbers to verify if the call was 'real'.  If no response they would click on the thumbnail image and if they saw an intruder (or anyone in the images) they would call the police and state a crime 'in progress' so they would then respond.  The images had time/date stamps as well to verify they were looking at a current image.  The price was very reasonable (my memory is saying $12/month at that time).
 
They also monitored my smoke alarms.  I also had a panic (silent) alarm and if it was received they would call police and they should respond without video images, though they could look at the cameras as well.
 
I never had a break-in but I did put the system in test mode and the monitoring service would call back (at their convenience) and report what they saw come in from the system.
 
The reason I needed this service was because:
 
1. I worked in a classified/limited area around two hours from my home and could not have a phone during those times.  Also, cellular service was not available in a lot of those areas.
2. I traveled a lot and this gave my wife (and me) a piece of mind (be it artificial or realistic).
3. I wanted a 'panic' button in case of a home invasion or other immediate emergency where authorities were quickly needed.
 
This wound up being a long response but I'm hoping it offers some insight into options and reasons.  I don't know if Alarm Monitoring Services would be up for supporting DIY's as I had to quickly (and abruptly) move away due to a sudden and unexpected change of location due to my job.  They were friendly, highly professional, and reliable.  Their website is monitor1.com in case anyone wants to give them a call and see what they say (please let us know).
 
I no longer need this service as I now live in a small town of 6000 with the closest town (20 min away) of 12,000.  Its an isolated area and crime is extremely low here...mainly due to most of the people living here work for my employer.  I also feel a bit bad for abruptly dropping this company, but I had a lot going on at the time (long story there).
 
NextAlarm was good maybe 5 years ago, but I started having less and less confidence in them after that. After I dropped them, I heard indirectly things were getting worse. Personally I find it hard to believe a business like this is not profitable unless things are really bad, or they have gotten very few customers.
 
I've had AlarmRelay for several years and they have been great.  Maybe too great sometime.  Anytime a wireless battery needs replacing they will call, in about a minute.
 
Self monitoring may be a cheaper solution, but not a very good one.  With theft it doesn't really matter on way or another, but if your house has a fire,  and you happen to not be home and without cell coverage or just busy, I wish you luck with that one. Insurance companies realize this as well, and require professional monitoring for a discount. For as little as professional monitoring costs, and how bad a fire can be, I think it's a bit shortsighted to not use it.  
 
Yeah I have to say they pretty much suck and continued to suck - but they were cheap and fairly responsive.
 
I love how you have to REQUEST a refund.  I did so it reflects their crappiness.
 
Anyway I will look at alarm relay but need some other options.
 
Weeks / months ago the reason for pro over DIY monitoring was if you were somewhere other than home or inaccessible. Maybe a flight or a cruise? Hiking Everest or scuba diving. Got any trips planned?

That said now would be a bad time to be displaced by fire or have all your stuff stolen.

Alarm Relay is good IMO.


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 have been with AlarmRelay for years and am happy with them.  Had a door sensor tripped when I left a door unlocked and someone tripped the alarm inadvertently.  They were able to give me exactly what zones were tripped and no interior zones. The have a deal for a discount for the new user and a credit for the existing customer so you might want to get a referral from an existing customer.  Not meant to be an advertisement for them as I am just a satisfied customer.  But I would be happy to have others use me as a reference if you want to PM me.  :)
 
Thank you Jim. 
 
Probably will be switching over to Alarm Relay. 

Never have had an issue with Next Alarm.  Always have used software with my panel and tested speed of enabling and disabling alarm text messages.  Only two false alarms in 20 years with Next Alarm.  
 
Next Alarm's customer service and response times kinda sucked.
 
I want to switch to Alarm Relay but what a pain in the keister.  I have to set that all up again.  Do they have retail monitoring?  I didn't really see it on their site all the well?
 
Neil
 
I need to switch away from NextAlarm too.  How hard is it to switch to Alarm Relay's VOIP or cellular communicator solutions?   I prefer central monitoring for peace of mind.  Details on what it takes to switch will be much appreciated.
 
I currently use Nextalarm's broadband adapter for VOIP support.
 
Aroul
 
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