Black and Decker Freewire Motion Detector

nswint

Member
Has anyone gotten the Black and Decker Freewire Motion Detectors to be recognized by X10. They are labeled as being "X10 Compatible".
 

Mike

Senior Member
Smarthome had a promotion to get a starter set free with a $x amount purpose. I don't seem to have the references anymore so I'm not sure if they are still doing it.

(I did not get one)
 

BLH

Active Member
Not directly compatible. Was made OEM by X10 as it has an X10 Grantee FCC ID, but it uses a different RF Frequency. X10s are 310Mhz; Freewire 418Mhz. You will need a Freewire Messenger Hub to receive the FWMD Motion sensor. Once you get to the powerline signals. A Freewire Messenger Hub can control an X10 module and an X10 controller can control a Freewire module. I have used them in both directions. I do like the Freewire Messenger Hubs need of registering [like an X10 Security Console] the remotes. So you can have two hubs and remotes only control the hub it is registered to. Also the Messenger Hub has the house code dial and the Master Remote can do all 16 unit codes to the hub it is registered to.

One more thing. In the FCC database all the Freewire RF devices schematics and photos where released for public viewing. Some of the X10 stuff is also there like the cm15a USB Interface.
 

Gemini

Active Member
I'm using the "weather proof" modules on some exterior holiday lighting using regular X10 commands. The trick is to plug in their transceiver and"teach" the modules a code using a standard x10 signal instead of the remote that is furnished with the kit. After that you can remove the B&D transceiver and control the modules with any x10 controller. And the modules do stay coded if/when you unplug them.
 

dwarf

Member
I haven't purchased a motion sensor yet, however I picked up a few of the freewire kits and they are all X10 compatible. Both the remote can send x10 and the modules are x10 addressable.

I used it mainly for Xmas lights last year because of the weatherproof outdoor modules. Can't beat the price that I got them for.
 

un-wired

Active Member
We sell the Freewire line, and the products are 95% X10 compatible, the 5% being the previously mentioned RF frequency differences. I have personally installed the motion detectors (FWMD), they do require the messenger hub (FWMH) but work perfectly with X10 from that point. I have customers using them to trip home automation software as well as standard X10 modules with no problem. I also personally have the outdoor lamp modules (FWLROD) running Christmas lights with no difficulties.

We do have a sale currently for the 5 piece kit, I dont know the boards regulations on posting links and/or sales which would be considering "advertising" so if the admins allow I would be more then happy to post it.


Minor threadjacking, I would also like to offer a discount to all forum members making purchases by using a coupon code, however I still am wary without admin permission to do so.
 
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