BraveSirRobbin said:
Do you have access to a multimeter? That could help troubleshoot that sensor giving you trouble.
Disconnect the sensor from the panel and use clips to clip a multimeter to the sensor's wiring. Place the multimeter in 'ohms' then look at the readings when the windows is opened and closed and see if those readings are stable in both conditions.
Thank you, BraveSirRobbin. I would have replied yesterday, but I'm still restricted on posts. I have a couple of multimeters here (1 analog and 1 digital) that I used to determine the type of contacts that were installed before programming out the supervision resistors (another item to add later on). I'll see if I can find the error that way as I am willing to replace the sensor, but I really want to use wired sensors and minimize the number of wireless sensors as much as possible. I just hope (if anything) it is the sensor itself and not an issue in the wiring. I also bought a cheap cable tracker from harbor freight specifically to find the buried wires for this alarm install (I had pictures from the pre-drywall stage for the locations, but this helped) and to trace back sensors where the label had rubbed off or was painted over.
pete_c said:
This door's sensor value was all over the place. I replaced the sensor and pigtail and all was fine. It was easy to find the issue but difficult to replace the sensor as I had to remove the exterior door threshold to get to the sensor and remove and replace it.
I had a similar issue with wire access with the exterior utility door in the main garage. Home builder installed sensors (no magnets) to the windows, but the doors had plugs where the wire drop ended. I could not pull the plug out, so I had to pull all of the molding off the door and still have to fish between the framing in order to find the slack in the wire that I could use to install the sensor.
pete_c said:
You can utilize two batteries for a longer time of use after a power failure. Many folks here also utilize a secondary or sub power panel with battery.
I'm definitely thinking about using that extra 14" enclosure as a sub power panel with battery.
pete_c said:
Over the years here have seen many panels get zapped by a lightning strike. It typically is related to the grounding of the panel or sub panel. The issue or topic of lightning has a world on to itself. Relating to the Leviton Omni Pro panel the very first sentence relating to the installation of the panel is wiring up the ground.
Here in the midwest we have copper plumbing. On the ingress before the water meter there is a ground strap clamped to the water ingress pipe. That ground strap runs in conduit to the electrical fuse panel where it is connected to the same neutral lead on the fuse panel. Outside here near the electrical ingress (underground) I also have a stake in the ground with another ground strap going to the metal cover of the electrical meter. Over the years here have added a whole house surge protector and a secondary surge protector on the outdoor AC compressor fuse box. Folks here have mentioned the use of separate grounding for secondary panels in outbuilding like say a garage or using fiber.
I installed my enclosure as a flush mount with a J box and surge suppressor outlet embedded in the bottom of the box and made sure the box, enclosure, and the phone surge suppressor were grounded as necessary, but everything is wired in my master closet, so I don't think I'll be able to run a separate ground line. It's definitely an important step for protection. Our plumbing is only copper on the main, so I'd have to double-check where the grounding is. I've seen a ton of lightning living out here, but this is the first time since moving out here that I feel that the possibility of a surge due to a lightning strike is real. I really only worried about load surges from all the compressors (A/Cs and fridges) starting at once in the summer.
pete_c said:
I kept the contractor 120VAC with battery installed smokes and wired in a paralell 4 wire zoned system connected to the security panel. It was a PITA to wire.
This is one problem I need to figure out in the near future. I have the contractor hard-wired 120VAC smokes (and 2 CO/smoke combos). As part of the alarm pre-wire, I see 2 red-sleeved 4-wire lines for fire going to the panel that I have not hooked up to anything (I left zone 16 open just in case I decide to use 2-wire smokes). When I spoke to the one of the trades people for some warranty work, they said that they use that to install a relay back to the panel (which I know is not allowed or recommended). I don't like the look of the multiple smoke detectors, but I don't think there is really another option in order to stay in compliance with all codes. I still need to figure out if I am going to go wired (preferred, but a pain), or wireless (can use Honeywell) as that would be easy, but then have to worry about signal strength.
pete_c said:
Relating to PIRs here have slowly migrated to combo PIR / Microwave sensors which seem to work better than just a PIR. That said though have only had two false positive triggers with the old PIRs in over 10 years.
I've read good things about the Bosch Blueline PIRs, but was not sure if they were a combo like you described. I'm pre-wired for 2 locations of PIRs and want to get them for the times we travel with the dogs. I also need to get some glass break sensors, but I will need to go wireless for those due to the locations where I need them.
pete_c said:
Note none of the stuff above was done within a month or so of installation. Baby steps here a bit at a time not really rushing and using the redecorating of a room (per WAF) to do my in ceiling / in wall wire runs. Windows wiring was done during construction and the wires where home run and labeled by the contractor. I really didn't get to them until long after wards. And really they were not necessary any how.
I am definitely doing baby steps. I bought the ELK M1G during a labor day sale in 2016 and closed on my house a few days later. A few months went by before I installed the enclosure. After installing the enclosure, I changed my mind on which wireless transmitter I wanted to use and had to buy a new one. Then I learned more about the benefits of one add-on board when using 4-wire cables instead of CAT5 to the keypad drops. Then finally got around to tracing wires and installing the alarm system components I had purchased. I feel like once I can get this last window sensor issue fixed, I will be able to be setup for basic monitoring (I already have rules programmed to call me, email me, and text my wife if the burglar alarm is tripped and have tested them a few times). I still want to add a wireless sensor to the side door to my separate 1-car garage, but that can wait as it is only protecting stuff (no house entrance through there) and my courtyard camera covers that door as well.
pete_c said:
Many folks here on the forum have DIY'd their security and have had similiar occurances relating to all sorts of stuff.
Personally have learned a lot here on the Cocoontech forum.
Personal experience with the alarm system at my old house is what drove me to DIY this system. My old system was installed by a smaller national installation/monitoring company (they were just recently bought out by a large security company). Had the system installed with the 2-way interface (helped with a couple of false alarms), but besides the outrageous pricing for basic monitoring (all POTS-based), it was when that alarm was tripped for real (around Christmas) that drove me to want to DIY. The monitoring company and my keypad (single keypad downstairs) showed that the zone that was tripped was my living room windows. I checked those and there was nothing wrong with any of the windows, so I chalked it up to a false alarm as it was an especially cold night. But I searched the house anyway and found one window had been slightly opened (about an 1" before the perp was scared and took off) in the laundry room. After that event, I checked the alarm panel and saw only about 6 zones wired when I had 16 window sensors, 4 door sensors, and one PIR that were wired. I knew I could do a better job installing an alarm system than that (and with better featured, less expensive monitoring). Plus, I know each wall in each room has it's own zone (at a minimum) and I have a keypad in the master bedroom that can tell me what is happening at anytime.
This forum is what guided me towards the ELK system (there were quite a few good choices presented here). I don't think I would have had the confidence to attempt this without all of the information presented here. I have learned so much regarding home security, home networking (built a router running a ...sense firewall and using enterprise APs), automation (still in the planning stages, but already have my choice narrowed down between 2 non-cloud solutions), and CCTV between this forum and a popular ip camera forum. As much as I have learned, there is still more to learn, so I definitely appreciate the wealth of knowledge that has been shared here.