IP PTZ cams.

[CollinR]

Grab bag of IP based PT(digital zoom) cameras.

Heres the deal.

Min units sold = 5
End Date = TBA, lets shoot for Nov 1, 2007

What do you get???

New in box Vivotek PT 3114

http://www.vivotek.com/products_pt3117.htm

MPEG-4 Video Compression
Motorized Pan/Tilt (IR Remote Control Included)
Optimized Synchronization of Audio and Video
802.11g Wireless Connection OR WIRED!!!
Intelligent Motion Detection
Pre- and Post- Alarm Snapshots
Customized Homepage
Digital I/O for Sensor and Alarm
Free-bundled 16-CH Audio and Video Recording Software

$200 + shipping

Compare againts Provantage
http://www.provantage.com/vivotek-pt3114~7VIVO00L.htm
$117 savings over a low cost provider, you won't see that every day.

Compare against whomever you like, you can't beat this.

Dealers are no problem but all CT end users will be fulfilled first, have access to hundreds of these. These came from an inventory buyout, I don't normally sell Vivotek.

NO RETURNS!
Be warned, Provantage does that for $177 more so I feel I can too. Not to mentioned where would I sell the returns.



I am working on getting the outdoor housings as well, that is an certainly option.

 

[electron]

How do these compare against the popular Panasonic BL-C10A?

 

[DeLicious]

the panasonic BL-C10A is only a wired connection, and only has pan/tilt, but no zoom, so already there are some big differences

 

[BraveSirRobbin]

I think Dan was more concerned (as am I) of the quality of the image itself. I couldn't find (in my rush to look at the specs) if this is a CCD, its resolution, or its minimum lumens requred (how low light it is).

This is very generous of you to offer this Collin. Most members would probably need something like this outdoors, so I' glad to see you are trying to provide an outdoor solution as well.

I would also like to see some general utility bullet cameras with a group buy. Something like a general low light color and VERY low light black and white camera, resolutions over 420, CCD, and say 6mm lens.

Regards,

BSR

 

[gcimmino]

Just some notes:

The latest firmware for this model is April 2005. It doesn't appear on the product information page of the manufacturer's site in either the PTZ, nor Phase Out models. So that means it is probably not going to see any firmware upgrades. You will find the user manual on their site and its pretty detailed.

Also, the zoom on this appears to be the same type of digital zoom as on the panasonic cams. That is, the camera doesn't zoom, but you can digitally zoom the viewed image via their browser applet.

Dan, this is more comparable to the CL-30A that has wireless. New for $252 at amazon, probably cheaper elsewhere. I haven't compared image specs yet. Perhaps someone else will first

Collin, let us know if you find outdoor housings that fit these. I may be in for a couple.

Anyone know if this will be supported by Elk RM? Also, any decent, affordable multi-cam recording software that support these?

Thanks

 

[gcimmino]

Product manual is from the manf. site here.

 

[eufreka]

...I would also like to see some general utility bullet cameras with a group buy. Something like a general low light color and VERY low light black and white camera, resolutions over 420, CCD, and say 6mm lens.

Regards,

BSR

Me too. Maybe a group buy with a DVR Card?

Currently I am using zoneminder with 2 pana cl-10a indoors and they work well.

This vivotek appears to be mpeg only(?) so it won't work with zm...

 

[IVB]

D'oh! So close yet so far for me. I really would like PTZ for the back of my house, but it needs to be somewhat water-resistant and not IP (hooking into the AverMedia).

 

[mustangcoupe]

looks real close to the Dlink dcs-6620g... I liked the image on that one, we have a few at work

 

[Rupp]

Is this for the wireless camera? I thought the model number listed in this buy was for the wired model.

 

[mustangcoupe]

The PT3114/3124 is a powerful surveillance system, connected to an Ethernet port or 802.11g wireless connection provides users with high quality synchronized audio-video footage.

 

[WayneW]

there seems to be a contradiction/typo here:

New in box Vivotek PT 3114

http://www.vivotek.com/products_pt3117.htm

is it a 3114 or a 3117?

There also seems to be a typo, is Provantage $177 or $117 more?

 

[CollinR]

How do these compare against the popular Panasonic BL-C10A?

Dunno but I assume similar, I don't normally sell either. Both of those are basically consumer cams, the panny PTZ I normally sell is $2k and will make both of those look chitty.

the panasonic BL-C10A is only a wired connection, and only has pan/tilt, but no zoom, so already there are some big differences

Correct, also IIRC the pan and tilt capacity are different although neither goes 360* or has auto flip. Basically the stuff that makes a $2k PTZ. This is an entry level camera, still worth more then $200 obvisously.

I think Dan was more concerned (as am I) of the quality of the image itself. I couldn't find (in my rush to look at the specs) if this is a CCD, its resolution, or its minimum lumens requred (how low light it is).

This is very generous of you to offer this Collin. Most members would probably need something like this outdoors, so I' glad to see you are trying to provide an outdoor solution as well.

I would also like to see some general utility bullet cameras with a group buy. Something like a general low light color and VERY low light black and white camera, resolutions over 420, CCD, and say 6mm lens.

Regards,

BSR

1/4" (probably sony but not listed) < Pretty standard for PTZs, not sure why really just lots of 1/4".
1 lux at F2.0 < May be possible to change lens, the lens is the lighting bottleneck on this cam.
It does have Auto Backlight and Auto White Balance

1 alarm sensor input
1 relay output

Yeah I don't have a good source of the outdoor housings, I would expect to spend another $300 to make it fully IP66 and retain the wifi access if desired. I have however found them on the net for ~$200.

Tell Dan you would like to see an LVS section here at CT and I'll post some everyday stuff you can get. The group buys take me some effort to source and all that. If you buy a system from me you are already getting a group buy anyway as most need more then Qty 4-5 of the stuff anyway.

 

[CollinR]

Just some notes:

The latest firmware for this model is April 2005. It doesn't appear on the product information page of the manufacturer's site in either the PTZ, nor Phase Out models. So that means it is probably not going to see any firmware upgrades. You will find the user manual on their site and its pretty detailed.

Also, the zoom on this appears to be the same type of digital zoom as on the panasonic cams. That is, the camera doesn't zoom, but you can digitally zoom the viewed image via their browser applet.

Dan, this is more comparable to the CL-30A that has wireless. New for $252 at amazon, probably cheaper elsewhere. I haven't compared image specs yet. Perhaps someone else will first

Collin, let us know if you find outdoor housings that fit these. I may be in for a couple.

Anyone know if this will be supported by Elk RM? Also, any decent, affordable multi-cam recording software that support these?

Thanks

Yup digital zoom.
I would say this is more robust then the panny, that panny just looks like a toy. Not that this looks much better but I see "baby cam" when I look at those.

It includes some software, unknown quality.
Should work with hybrid DVRs, it does with mine anyway.

Product manual is from the manf. site here.

Thank you, I should have done that right off.

...I would also like to see some general utility bullet cameras with a group buy. Something like a general low light color and VERY low light black and white camera, resolutions over 420, CCD, and say 6mm lens.

Regards,

BSR

Me too. Maybe a group buy with a DVR Card?

Currently I am using zoneminder with 2 pana cl-10a indoors and they work well.

This vivotek appears to be mpeg only(?) so it won't work with zm...

Will do group buy on DVR card and software, gotta get 5 buyers on the cams first though.
No it has MJPEG too.

I also don't want to wear out my welcome here by basically spamming this area. The tools are a good deal, this is a great deal.

D'oh! So close yet so far for me. I really would like PTZ for the back of my house, but it needs to be somewhat water-resistant and not IP (hooking into the AverMedia).

It works, no worries. I have one streaming to mine right now.

I will do select demos to upstanding members, so you can see it running through an avermedia box on it's way across country from cam>me>you.

looks real close to the Dlink dcs-6620g... I liked the image on that one, we have a few at work

Nope similar cam, thats why this is a "grab bag" you might get all Dlinks, might get all of another OEMer, might get all Vivotek. All same same just the price is different. So start searching on the DLinks fellas.

I think this is the actual Dlink OEM.
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=342

Is this for the wireless camera? I thought the model number listed in this buy was for the wired model.

It's either or, you pick.

The PT3114/3124 is a powerful surveillance system, connected to an Ethernet port or 802.11g wireless connection provides users with high quality synchronized audio-video footage.

Yup however many DVRs do not support the audio side.

Included sample shot too.

EDIT: Fixed Dlink reference.

 

[CollinR]

Keep in mind that sample shot has been bounced to me remotely and then reencoded to H.264 so it is slightly degraded compared to what you can get locally over a Base100 network.