I'm always keeping my eye on new stuff and like the looks of the Grand Concerto keypad, but I really don't like the feel of the membrane keys. Would be interested to hear what others who have touched it think?
Paul, If we are talking about the same thing, the Grand keypad is a glass capacitive touch, much like a touchscreen or some of the flat appliance control panels. It is not a membrane. Yes, it is different, it is like touching glass whereas the other keypads have a regular tactile push button.
Steve,
Do you work for Nuvo? You seem to push it a lot.
Your math must be different then mine but $3500 (for the Nuvo) is always, in any language or society, more expensive then $2000 (for the Russound CAV)
Nuvo is MUCH MORE expensive... Period.
No, if I worked for Nuvo my affiliation would be in my sig. I'm sorry if you feel mentioning it twice (in two different threads) is 'pushing' it. People need to choose what's right for them based on several factors and they come here looking for opinions and options. While I am human and sometime mix my facts up, I try very hard to give accurate and factual information as well as opinion. My personal opinion is that the Nuvo Grand is nicer than the equivalent Russound, whether that be a CAV, CAM or whatever. I spent a good amount of time at EHX looking at them both and talking to people that have seen, used and installed both. I heard from a few people that the Nuvo digital amps were better than the Russounds and in a side by side test actually sounded better. Would I tell people, or 'psuh' people based on this, of course not, but I *do* feel obligated to mention to them and have people make their own decision. All I can tell you is the Nuvo is my personal choice for most of the reasons mentioned above. Many people do not have the luxury of attending EHX and talking to some of the pros that use these systems. I also never said anything negative about the Russound stuff. It is quality eqiuipment as well and I always mention Compoint which is an attractive and sometimes needed option.
And lastly, yes, my math is different than yours. I would encorage you to check your math and state apples to apples facts. The only objective comparison is to compare at list/retail prices, not ebay or Joe's bargain basement. I am looking at Russound's 2006 Product Guide which is a catalog they hand out at the show. In it they list the 'Minimum Advertised Price'. To be fair, the CAV supports video as well so I don't know if thats the best model to compare to, but thats what you and Paul mentioned. The price listed in the guide for the Russound CAV6.6-S2 which is the amp, 6 UNO-S2 keypads and a remote is $3,999. The equivilaent list price of the Nuvo Grand with the amp, 6 OLED keypads and remote is $3,499. In the math training I've had, that makes the Russound unit $500 more than the Nuvo. So please, for the benefit of the membership here, please post facts. Heck, the retail price of the CAV alone without keypads is $2,199 which is more than the price you stated. Now sure you can argue you can get a better price somewhere but that is wildly variable and cannot be used for comparison. I personally would not buy this type of equipment from anyone but a known rebutable dealer with a warranty.
I wish you luck with whatever you choose and hope that everyone does their due diligence in choosing a system to meet their personal needs and wants.
