Win11 has become a slug...

JimS

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Have an HP laptop 15-bs168cl. Tried to keep it on Win10 but somehow MS pushed 11 to it. It worked fairly well for several months but now is a total slug. I did a little google and discovered the "reset" option which seemed ideal. Backed up stuff and did the reset keeping my files. It's still awful - took a bit over 30 minutes to boot. So my options seem to be either restore Win10 from the recovery partition or do a clean Win10 install. I have media so could easily (well none of this is really easy but relatively so...) do either. Have the product key and can reload everything. Just looking for some advice from people more familiar with all this. MS answer would be buy a new laptop but it's not used for any intense applications. I suppose a memory test and look at the drive would be a good thing.
 
I dug down into window tools and diagnostics (built into windows). It rated every system (except maybe network) as poor performance. Seems like a good indicator I should be going back to Win10 - thats what it came with. My desktop failed the requirements for Win11 for some reason and I was very happy it did - I didn't have to worry about them trying to slip the update in.
 
I have always found that the updates on a system seem to come much frequently once a new O/S is released. Many people feel this is a ploy to cripple the old O/S and force people into upgrading in frustration, by adding system hooks.

Making matters worse all the software companies have their own hardware systems now which gives them more incentive to do the dirty on their customers.

Of course the usual answer is "The thing is five years old! That's a long time for today's technology" "What do you want out of your $10K you spent on all the gadgets, hardware and software.

I would attempt the original Win 10 system install and try to lock out, and/or select only particular updates. Of course there are so many disguised files now-a-days, it makes it hard to tell what is actually for your health, and what is actually for the health of their wallets.
Renting a computer or a mobile phone is the way things are these days. We have no rights to our own systems, despite owning the bills.
 
Yup, Windows 11 seems to enforce their hardware requirements, so not sure how it managed to install on you. Windows 10 reinstall makes the most sense. And I agree with @LarryLix's comment on MS deliberately crippling - I've seen too many weird things happen over time - evil.

That said, I have found Windows 11 Pro to be the most reliable version of Windows I have ever used. Not one crash or blue-screen-of-death in a few years on three different PCs (HS4, Blue Iris, and home office). I cannot say that about Windows 10 and earlier. So I am very glad I invested in a new HS4 machine with Windows 11 Pro. I chose Pro to be able to turn off updates.
 
I'm in the process of installing 10. I found a registry edit to limit updates to the last update of 10 which I will do that.
 
Arg... I always fall into a rabbit hole doing this stuff. Win10 no longer has a driver for my networked HP4000 printer. So I tried the HP universal PCL6 driver. It fails to install for some unknown reason. Tried a few other things but nothing working yet. Basic system boots in just under a minute now which is a huge improvement. I have it working on my desktop win10 machine. Any chance I could find a driver package on it and copy it over? I suppose a windoze forum would be a better place to try for an answer.
 
HP printer was bought used from an electronics recycler so no CD. After I did some other seeming unrelated stuff and rebooted the PC it installed without issue.
 
Here still using an HP 5P with Windows 11 on desktop and laptops. Use a printing closet with two networked printers.

Mostly using Ubuntu Linux. Use Windows 11 for familiarity for Wife's laptop.

No slow downs here.
 
I did have to install the HP4000 with a universal (think that's the term it showed) HP driver. Earlier versions of 10 had a specific HP4000 driver that is gone even when you hit the button for more. But it is working ok. Wife said she could print from Android to it before too and it's not readily available now. But that shouldn't depend on the windows driver. She can print to the inkjet from Android so it isn't a huge issue. The overall speed is much better - huge improvement.
 
Yeah, I always found the Windoze registry grows and grows as time goes on. It remembers everything you ever thought about doing to your system like a google virus. This means every time the user calls for something the system has to scour this massive definition file before relating or linking to anything. Design flaw, but it encourages people to buy new hardware every few years.

Then there is the intentional slowing older systems down with "security updates" but that has never been proven yet, or was that proof has always been suppressed successfully.

Glad it is working out for you.
 
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