HAI programming with button, lights won't turn back on.

rugao123

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I created a button for GOING TO SLEEP, when activated, it turns off all the lights on the first floor.
 
When Going To Sleep
            Then Family Room Off
 
After the button was activated, the family room light did turn off, but was not able to turn back on using Haiku, no response.  Using the physical switch, it did turn the lights on, but it shut itself off once the light was on.  I had to delete the button, then lights seemed to turn on and stayed on.  
 
Are you using HLC mode?
How long after you turned them off did you try to turn them on via Haiku?
How long did you wait after sending the ON command?
Did you try to turn the light on with the Room ON or Unit ON command?
When you turned the lights on manually and they shut back off:
How long did you wait between sending the button command to turn off the lights and operating the rocker switch?
Did you try a second or third time to turn the lights on manually with the same results?
 
 
What I am getting at, in HLC mode when a command is sent the controller waits the preset "UPB Delay" time, and then sends a series of status requests on the line.
If you send a new UPB link action once this routine is underway, it goes into the command queue and there will be a delay in execution.
During the status update routine, the controller also sends some room controller and indicate commands, these may turn off the light if it is on when it is not supposed to be.
 
If you waited a minute after you executed your button to send the Haiku command to turn on, and the lights didn't turn on, then that is a different problem.
You'll need to bring up UPStart and the log to monitor all of the traffic on the UPB network to pinpoint exactly why that is occurring.
 
Thanks Desert_AIP for the quick response.
 
I think I'm using HLC mode, Family Room (unit 1), it controls other 7 LED recessed lights (units 2-8).
 
I tried to turn them on right after the command was send, and the lights turn off.  Then I tried to turn them back on with Haiku about 1 minute later, with no response, then tried with wall switch, the light did came back on, then it automically shut itself off right after the light turned on.  The family room load is not linked to any other lights.
 
Family Room (unit 1), controls other 7 LED recessed lights (units 2-8).
 
I'll play around again tonight.  
 
Is Unit 1 "Family Room" a 6 button Room controller?
 
In the code above, Are you using the HLC Room 1 ("Family Room") OFF command, or are you sing the UPB Unit 1 "Family Room OFF" command?
 
Bring up PCAccess and send a UPB Link 2 Activate (which is the same thing as HLC Room 1 OFF), does the same behavior occur?
 
What brand LEDs are in the fixtures? 
Do you actually have 7 other units installed?  (units 2-8)
 
Do you have a second PIM you can hookup to a computer and bring up UPStart to look at the UPB traffic log while the Omni in sending the traffic?
 
Thanks Desert_AIP,
 
It worked with UPB Link 2, it's not a 6 or 8 button controller.  
 
Why UPB Link 2, so what is the UPB Link 1?  I was under the impression the UPB link is when a switch is associated with another switch.  Such as when switch A is turned, the switch B is turned on also (B linked to A). 
 
Six out of 7 units are installed.
 
Yes, I have a second PIM.
 
In HLC the first unit in a room MUST be a 6 button room controller.
If you don't have one you still have to name that slot in PCAccess, but you don't install a unit with that ID number, there won't be a physical switch in that slot.

The HLC system is a specific allocation of UPB unit numbers and links, divided into "Rooms".
For Room 1 the HLC links are the first six UPB links.
UPB Link 1 Activate = HLC Room 1 ON 100%
UPB Link 2 Activate = HLC Room 1 OFF 0%
UPB Link 3 Activate = HLC Room 1 Scene A ON 80%
UPB Link 4 Activate = HLC Room 1 Scene B ON 60%
UPB Link 5 Activate = HLC Room 1 Scene C ON 40%
UPB Link 6 Activate = HLC Room 1 Scene D ON 20%

So sending an HLC Room 1 ON command actually transmits Link 1 Activate on the UPB network.

This is why it is possible to use non Leviton non "HLC" switches in an HLC install.
All it is is a structured allocation of units and links and some preprogrammed behaviors used to maintain sync with unit statuses.
 
So, since it worked with the UPB link I think two things are causing confusion.
One, you have a switch where it expects a room controller and it is sending indicate commands to the controller, which is turning off the lights, not just the LED on the room controller.
Two, you may be using the wrong area in the pull down menus.
You want to use the zone/flag/unit commands and make sure you use the room commands not the unit commands.
I try to avoid this confusion by labeling the room "Living Room" and the unit controlling the lights as "Living Room Lights".
You can also tell it to send UPB Link 2 Activate and PCAccess will automatically translate it to the proper HLC command.
I label the Links in both the HLC and UPB Link areas as the UPB plain Language descriptions are more intuitive.
 
PCAccess will translate to the HLC commands.
For instance If I label Room 1 Scene A as "Living Room 80" in the UPB section, I know that sends the Living Room to 80%.
When I enter that, PCAccess translates it to Living Room Scene A ON. 
Using the UPB links, I don't have to remember what Scene A is or does. 
 
ETA: checked PCAccess programming and edited above.
 
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