Has anyone tried the latest version of the Smartthings Multipurpose Sensor with the ZigBee Interface Module (ZIM)? This device has open/closed, vibration, orientation, and temperature sensors. I was just wondering what (if any) sensors the Omni supports. I'm particularly interested in the vibration sensor for monitoring an oil furnace motor and circulator pump.
OmniPro II and Multipurpose Sensor
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The Omni Pro is UL listed as a burglar and fire alarm panel. Life safety issues are involved. That UL listing makes it more difficult, time consuming and expensive to add new function to the panel. Each time something is changed or added, they need to retest and re-certify the panel to ensure that it still meets the UL standards.
With Smarthings, Samsung can toss out a new firmware update any time they want, with minimal testing. If it doesn't work quite right, oh, well, maybe they'll fix it in the next release.
Simple answer is Leviton has no reason to spend time and money enabling something that wouldn't benefit them a bit. They could enable it pretty easy with firmware in the ZIM, but why risk the liability if it causes problems? The OP II is old but if the market was so attractive, why don't 100 other companies build a better one? I see a market opportunity for you. You should go for it.GadgetGuy said:
Leviton just announced a strategic partnership with Smarthings. http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/SectionDisplay.jsp?section=81163&minisite=10251
It's possible that in the near future ST multi sensors etc. could be supported by more modern Leviton products such as the Bitwise line via ST. Leviton is putting a lot of financial and marketing resources into the Bitwise line as well as creating a Bitwise developer program with incentives.
It's possible that in the near future ST multi sensors etc. could be supported by more modern Leviton products such as the Bitwise line via ST. Leviton is putting a lot of financial and marketing resources into the Bitwise line as well as creating a Bitwise developer program with incentives.
My guess is this alliance with ST will now give Bitwise developers the opportunity to develop more ST enabled products such as IOT products for the Bitwise line. Leviton will monetize this alliance by taking a percentage off the top of each sale thru the Leviton Bitwise authorized dealer store. Leviton has nothing to lose and everything to gain since all the product development would be done by third parties. If the product is a success, Leviton is making money but if the product is a flop, well, Leviton has not lost anything. It's a win-win for Leviton.
Leviton Bitwise dealer store https://store.bitwisecontrols.com/
Leviton Bitwise developer program https://dealer.leviton.com/BitWise-Developer-Program
Leviton Bitwise dealer store https://store.bitwisecontrols.com/
Leviton Bitwise developer program https://dealer.leviton.com/BitWise-Developer-Program
While the OmniPro has been a reliable HA system for many years, it's obvious that it's best years are behind it. Leviton has moved on with other products that don't really replace it.
With regard to the multipurpose sensor, it's OEM'd from CentraLite (p/n 3321-S). There's no technical reason Leviton couldn't support the vibration, temperature, and contact closure features. However I doubt anyone there is actively working on any new integration projects for the OmniPro.
After spending a little time with the SmartThings hub and multipurpose sensor, I can find quite a few applications where I would like to use them. The hub also works great with Amazon Echo Dot, another thing not supported on the OmniPro. I don't like the cloud aspect of the system, but I can except it for these functions. (I would never trust it for security or door locks.) That said, it would be great to find a way to link the SmartThings hub and OmniPro to get the best of both worlds.
With regard to the multipurpose sensor, it's OEM'd from CentraLite (p/n 3321-S). There's no technical reason Leviton couldn't support the vibration, temperature, and contact closure features. However I doubt anyone there is actively working on any new integration projects for the OmniPro.
After spending a little time with the SmartThings hub and multipurpose sensor, I can find quite a few applications where I would like to use them. The hub also works great with Amazon Echo Dot, another thing not supported on the OmniPro. I don't like the cloud aspect of the system, but I can except it for these functions. (I would never trust it for security or door locks.) That said, it would be great to find a way to link the SmartThings hub and OmniPro to get the best of both worlds.
Actually there is. The OP II was designed to have many UL approved security zone inputs and temperature inputs and that it it. It was never designed to accept sensors outside of those. Could they start from the ground up and redesign their firmware, sure, but you never gave the economic advantage for them to do so.GadgetGuy said:
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