NeverDie
Senior Member
I found that it was easier to add ST sensors to ST than to A+. The best way was to pull the tab that engaged the battery on a brand new sensor and then have ST search for a new device. It would typically find it fairly quickly, and then all I had to do was confirm that I wanted to add it. With A+ I have to pull the cover off the ST sensor, remove the battery, hold down a tiny spring-loaded button at the bottom of a hole with the tip of a narrow pen, engage the battery, wait for an LED flash, then immediately release the button by removing the pen. This worked about 50% of the time. The other 50% I had to repeat until it worked. Afterward, I had to snap the cover back on. All in all, a lot more steps when using the A+.
By the way, the ST sensor came with no instructions on how to do the more elaborate pairing. I had to look it up on the ST website. The A+ instructions just say press and release a pairing button, which, as shown above, isn't entirely accurate. Moreover, initially I had to scratch my head, because there was no visible pairing button on the ST sensor. I had to pull the cover off to discover whether there even was such a button, and the actual directions for using it were different than just press and release.
So, comparing the two for use by the general human population, I'd have to say ST wins. It's simple human factors like that which can make a big difference. In the future I could ship an additional ST sensor to a relative and have some hope that it will get installed using ST, whereas with A+ I might have to be physically present to add it myself.
That's OK, because (in retrospect) the products apparently have different intended audiences. Here I'm just doing a compare/contrast for "the next guy."
Ideally, I'd like to use best-of-bread sensors, regardless of manufacturer, with a particular hub. The above demonstrates that may be easier said that done, as who knows what setup ritual any particular sensor might demand of you. Is it doable? Yes, probably. However, the % of people willing to jump through the hoops probably goes down. So, for these reasons, I'm not optimistic that Zigbee on its own will thrive. It's going to need some kind of coordination among manufacturers, and we already know from history that they're predisposed not to cooperate. I hope the Thread group will force interoperability through Thread certification, but time will tell. If Thread fails, then that may leave only Apple as last man standing to get it right. Based on history, I doubt z-wave will ever get it right. Just as with Wi-Fi certification, it seems to require a group that's not itself a manufacturer to enforce interoperability.
By the way, the ST sensor came with no instructions on how to do the more elaborate pairing. I had to look it up on the ST website. The A+ instructions just say press and release a pairing button, which, as shown above, isn't entirely accurate. Moreover, initially I had to scratch my head, because there was no visible pairing button on the ST sensor. I had to pull the cover off to discover whether there even was such a button, and the actual directions for using it were different than just press and release.
So, comparing the two for use by the general human population, I'd have to say ST wins. It's simple human factors like that which can make a big difference. In the future I could ship an additional ST sensor to a relative and have some hope that it will get installed using ST, whereas with A+ I might have to be physically present to add it myself.
That's OK, because (in retrospect) the products apparently have different intended audiences. Here I'm just doing a compare/contrast for "the next guy."
Ideally, I'd like to use best-of-bread sensors, regardless of manufacturer, with a particular hub. The above demonstrates that may be easier said that done, as who knows what setup ritual any particular sensor might demand of you. Is it doable? Yes, probably. However, the % of people willing to jump through the hoops probably goes down. So, for these reasons, I'm not optimistic that Zigbee on its own will thrive. It's going to need some kind of coordination among manufacturers, and we already know from history that they're predisposed not to cooperate. I hope the Thread group will force interoperability through Thread certification, but time will tell. If Thread fails, then that may leave only Apple as last man standing to get it right. Based on history, I doubt z-wave will ever get it right. Just as with Wi-Fi certification, it seems to require a group that's not itself a manufacturer to enforce interoperability.