Blueprint and Security Review

Greetings,
 
So its that time.  Countless hours of researching, reading forums, etc.  My house is under renovation and I am ready to start running wire.  It is a small 1700 square foot one story ranch.  The renovation is mainly kitchen, bath, floors, etc.  Therefore running wire before the renovation or after I don't think will be any more or less complicated.
 
I have already decided to use Elk and I have my Elk M1G and have been playing around with the ElkRP software to learn.
 
Right now I am could use some advice on motion, glass break sensors as well as their location along with the keypads.
 
 
I am planning on using the Bosch ISC-BDL2-WP12G Blue Line Gen 2 PIR Motion Sensors.  I do have a 50 pound dog, but she right now is kenneled in the house when we are away.  However, if she starts behaving she might get some more freedom while my wife and I are out of the house.

1. Is there any reason not to use these sensors?  They seem to get great reviews on the forums.
2. Do my sensor locations in the blueprint provide adequate (and not excessive) coverage in the house?
3. Are the motion sensor locations I indicated, ideal locations in each room?

I have no idea what glass break sensor to use and where to place them.  I would prefer to use something small and hidden.  Quick searches show: Shatterproof 5820A, or the newer 5822A. However, the forums seem to recommend Visonic Glasstechs.
 

1. Any suggestions on which sensor to use?
2. Any suggestions or advice on placement of the sensors?  The rooms are mostly small so ceiling or wall placement should work fine I think.

The plan doesn't show it, but I plan on having sensors on all windows and doors.  
 
Any suggestions or comments based on the keypad locations on the plan?
 
Thanks for your thoughts!
 
EDIT 12/15/2016:  I have decided on the Visonic GlassTechs.  If aesthetics is a concern I can always get the flush mount and that might make it a little nicer looking.
 
 

Get rid of the motion in the mudroom. It'll make your experiences in attempting to arm far easier.
 
Personally, I'm not a fan of the GE products and the shatterboxes are essentially a 30 year old design at this point with minimal revisions. Personally, I'm not a fan of the recessed units that sit into a round flush hole like these....especially those that require adjustment. They look great, as do your walls/ceiling until you have to pull them out for service.
 
For the motions, Bosch is good stuff, but if the dog has any possibility to jump on furniture, such as a couch by the window or within the initial 6' of the detector's location, the possibility of a false exists. Plan accordingly.

Thanks DEL!  I appreciate it!
 
I will remove the motion from the mud room.  Beginners questions however. Why would that make it easier to arm?  Would I need to bypass that zone each time I arm the system away since motion would be detected?
 
I saw an old post that you said you recommended the Visonic Glasstech glass breaks.  Is this still the case?  My wife is okay with function rather than form.  And false alarms will not be good so I am okay if the sensor isn't as hidden as others.
 
Thanks for the tip about the dog.  She never jumps on the furniture when we are home.  When we are not home she most likely would.  Which is why she still stays in the kennel when we are gone.  I understand nothing is "pet proof" and I can cross that bridge if I get to it.

johngalt said:

I will remove the motion from the mud room.  Beginners questions however. Why would that make it easier to arm?  Would I need to bypass that zone each time I arm the system away since motion would be detected?
 

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Yes. Also, when returning home, you'll set off the motion when you open the door before you can disarm the system.

42etus said:

Yes. Also, when returning home, you'll set off the motion when you open the door before you can disarm the system.

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Won't I have all the same issues when I come in through the other doors or attempt to arm and leave through the other doors?  I assumed that the motion detectors would be on a delay as well just like if the doors were opened.

Only if set up as a follower zone.

Personally, I'd probably leave the mud room motion and set it as interior follower as well.
 
I honestly wish I had more motions in my home. Not so much for security, but more for automation purposes.

All,
 
Thanks for advice.
 
Since I think any door I enter will set off the motion unless I remove motion sensors I think I might leave them and set them up as follower zones.  If they are annoying I can always disable them or just use it for home automation.
 
Right now I have no sensors in my laundry room.  Should I put a motion and glass break sensor there?  That side of the house is dark and blocked by trees, so someone might try to come in through that window.
 
I added glass break sensors to my plans based on the Visonics guidelines.  I don't know where to place one for the living room however.  I can put it on the far wall in the kitchen, but they don't recommend sensors in the kitchen.  Or I cut put it in the living room, but I plan on having the TV on that wall with in wall speakers and that isn't recommend either.  The plan below has both locations marked, but I would only need one (or maybe neither).
 
Any thoughts?
 

I'm with drvnbysound...If you have automation in mind at all you should wire in all the motions you can afford....and maybe door sensors on lighted rooms too.  
 
I'm in the process of installing an M1 in my house and one of the big selling features to the misses was 'refrigerator lights'.  

You may want to consider reducing the motions. I few motions covering strategic places such as upstairs or entry corridors would be sufficient. This way you could restrict the dog to certain areas of house.
 
In my experience, figure out how to get the motions to work properly for automation can be tricky. I do have a motion in the utility room, stairwell, and garage storage. These are infrequently used spaces where I don't have to fight the manual vs. automated who's in control problem.
 
Also, all the motions are shown mounted in corners. Motions work best when the object walks across the field (not towards).
 
As secondary issue why so many keypads?

Even with interior follower, you will still need to hold still for a brief moment until the keypad allows you to arm system. When my family is leaving, we sometimes play statue for moment until the motion (near keypad) becomes unsecure. If you have a large family, you would have to kick them outside before you could set the alarm. Coming home is not problem.

d.dennerline said:

Even with interior follower, you will still need to hold still for a brief moment until the keypad allows you to arm system. When my family is leaving, we sometimes play statue for moment until the motion (near keypad) becomes unsecure. If you have a large family, you would have to kick them outside before you could set the alarm. Coming home is not problem.

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And this is why I said to negate the one in the mudroom for the OP.
 
ROI is minimal for anything but a generic automation application that can be otherwise driven off the door contact. If someone gets in they're not going to stay in the mudroom.
 
And for the OP, the locations of GBD's can be varied. Kitchen would be less than desirable in close proximity to an area where cabinets/drawers are slammed shut or near the kitchen sink/stove. If you only use them at night or unoccupied, not an issue.