Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Welcome to the Premise Home Control forum


  • Please log in to reply
31 replies to this topic

#1 123

123

    Cocoonut

  • Registered
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2054 posts
  • Location:Montreal, QC
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Hardware:Elk M1

Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:19 AM

Welcome!
Premise Home Control is one of the best free Home Automation programs available. This forum is dedicated to sharing tips and tricks as well as answering your questions.

Please see the Premise Wiki for a complete description of Premise Home Control.

Edited by 123, 19 June 2009 - 01:34 PM.


#2 IVB

IVB

    Cocoonut

  • Registered
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 3553 posts
  • Location:Left Coast
  • Experience:guru
  • Software:CQC
  • Hardware:Elk M1
  • Tech:Z-Wave
  • Audio:Nuvo
  • CCTV:ip

Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:45 AM

congrats to both E & 123; soon, the sun will never set on the cocoontech & HA empire :-)

#3 Waynedb

Waynedb

    Dedicated Cocooner

  • Registered
  • PipPipPip
  • 397 posts
  • Location:California
  • Experience:average
  • Software:CQC
  • Hardware:ISY-99
  • Tech:INSTEON, Z-Wave, ZigBee
  • Audio:Custom
  • Video:SageTV
  • CCTV:ip
  • Phone:OBi100/110, Ooma

Posted 03 March 2008 - 04:45 PM

Thanks 123, and thanks to John who setup the Yahoo group and wrote some great modules.

I really hope this site can steer more H/A minded people to try and use Premise.

#4 Dan (electron)

Dan (electron)

    CocoonTech Admin

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 10861 posts
  • Twitter:@CocoonTech
  • Location:Central NY
  • Experience:guru
  • Software:EventGhost, HomeSeer
  • Hardware:Elk M1, Mi Casa Verde Vera, Ocelot
  • Tech:X10-RF, UPB, Z-Wave, ZigBee
  • Audio:AirPlay
  • Video:SageTV
  • CCTV:analog, ip, dvr
  • Phone:OBi100/110

Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:56 PM

Excellent post, I am definitely going to give this software a try in the next few weeks.

#5 samgreco

samgreco

    Dedicated Cocooner

  • Registered
  • PipPipPip
  • 617 posts
  • Location:Villa Park, IL
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Tech:X10-PLC, X10-RF, UPB
  • Audio:Xantech
  • Video:SageTV
  • Phone:FreePBX

Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:32 PM

Nice work 123 and thanks Cocoontech.

#6 macK2skier

macK2skier

    Newbie

  • Registered
  • Pip
  • 3 posts
  • Location:San Francisco, CA
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Hardware:Barix, CaddX, HAI OmniPro II
  • Tech:RadioRA, CentraLite
  • Audio:Russound
  • Video:Windows Media Center

Posted 04 March 2008 - 05:26 PM

Looks like a great upgrade from the Yahoo groups board. Thanks 123! Looking forward to having a larger audience of enthusiasts and coders who might be willing to share their ideas, new modules, and drivers. Hopefully some of the posts from the Yahoo group can be ported over, there's been some interesting stuff there in the past 6 months!

-Will Gosling

#7 DeLicious

DeLicious

    Dedicated Cocooner

  • Registered
  • PipPipPip
  • 773 posts
  • Location:Seattle, WA
  • Experience:guru
  • Software:Harmony
  • Tech:Z-Wave, ZigBee

Posted 04 March 2008 - 06:16 PM

what lighting protocols does this support?

#8 123

123

    Cocoonut

  • Registered
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2054 posts
  • Location:Montreal, QC
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Hardware:Elk M1

Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:30 PM

what lighting protocols does this support?


X10 via CM11A and MR26A
SmartHome Powerlinc (X10)
Lutron RadioRA
Leviton HCCOP
Litetouch 5000LC

Insteon and UPB via user-developed drivers

#9 AnotherOne

AnotherOne

    Dedicated Cocooner

  • Registered
  • PipPipPip
  • 221 posts
  • Location:Seattle
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Custom
  • Hardware:Elk M1, Custom
  • Tech:Custom
  • Audio:Custom
  • Video:Custom
  • CCTV:analog

Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:50 PM

Are questions and answers from the yahoo group forum going to move over here as well?

#10 123

123

    Cocoonut

  • Registered
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2054 posts
  • Location:Montreal, QC
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Hardware:Elk M1

Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:37 PM

Are questions and answers from the yahoo group forum going to move over here as well?


Yes! My proposal, to the Yahoo membership, is to transfer summaries of the message threads rather than verbatim copies. I think people want the Yahoo content for its collective knowledge rather than for historical reading. I'm awaiting replies ... and volunteers to divvy up the big job.

I also encourage everyone to search through the original Premise forum because it contains valuable tips and examples. Hopefully, this new forum will attract many of the old hands who frequented the original forum and then fell off the Premise planet (so to speak). ;)

Edited by 123, 04 March 2008 - 09:44 PM.


#11 acalbear

acalbear

    Cocooner

  • Registered
  • PipPip
  • 36 posts

Posted 05 March 2008 - 01:14 AM

Are there any drivers currently available that fully support recent SAI UPB devices?

what lighting protocols does this support?


X10 via CM11A and MR26A
SmartHome Powerlinc (X10)
Lutron RadioRA
Leviton HCCOP
Litetouch 5000LC

Insteon and UPB via user-developed drivers



#12 123

123

    Cocoonut

  • Registered
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2054 posts
  • Location:Montreal, QC
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Hardware:Elk M1

Posted 05 March 2008 - 09:53 AM

Are there any drivers currently available that fully support recent SAI UPB devices?


I can't speak from experience but, based on at least one other Premise user's inquiries, I'd have to conclude that the existing UPB driver does not support recent devices.

I believe the UPB driver is a "native Device Driver" meaning it is a DLL and was created using the C++ SDK. If I'm not mistaken the source code is available and someone, with appropriate experience, could update it.

FWIW, I'm writing a Module-based driver for the Elk M1. You'll have access to lighting-control via the M1's many hardware interfaces (Insteon, UPB, Zwave, X10).

#13 samgreco

samgreco

    Dedicated Cocooner

  • Registered
  • PipPipPip
  • 617 posts
  • Location:Villa Park, IL
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Tech:X10-PLC, X10-RF, UPB
  • Audio:Xantech
  • Video:SageTV
  • Phone:FreePBX

Posted 05 March 2008 - 10:22 AM

Are there any drivers currently available that fully support recent SAI UPB devices?


I can't speak from experience but, based on at least one other Premise user's inquiries, I'd have to conclude that the existing UPB driver does not support recent devices.

I believe the UPB driver is a "native Device Driver" meaning it is a DLL and was created using the C++ SDK. If I'm not mistaken the source code is available and someone, with appropriate experience, could update it.

FWIW, I'm writing a Module-based driver for the Elk M1. You'll have access to lighting-control via the M1's many hardware interfaces (Insteon, UPB, Zwave, X10).


That would probably be me ;)

First, understand that the drivers for UPB are rather old. So none of the recent SAI products are directly supported. For instance, I have a couple of US2-40 switches and it recognizes it as a multi-button switch, but not correctly. The load works from Premise, but the buttons do not. You can look at the XML files included with the drivers to see what is supported.

And the SDK is still available, so anyone that can program in C++ could make it work.

Anyone? :D

I've been able to tie X10 and UPB together via Premise so I can use the RF switches for instance, to turn on UPB lights, etc. But with X10 reaction time can be a bit slow.

#14 123

123

    Cocoonut

  • Registered
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2054 posts
  • Location:Montreal, QC
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Hardware:Elk M1

Posted 05 March 2008 - 11:56 AM

...
And the SDK is still available, so anyone that can program in C++ could make it work.
Anyone? :D
...


Sam,

I've started reviewing the posts in Premise SYS Community, to estimate the effort needed to transfer the threads, and I encountered your post on October 9, 2006 asking for the very same thing. You are a patient man! :D

Cocooners, find it in your hearts to take up the UPB torch and help make Sam's dream come true!

;)

#15 samgreco

samgreco

    Dedicated Cocooner

  • Registered
  • PipPipPip
  • 617 posts
  • Location:Villa Park, IL
  • Experience:average
  • Software:Premise
  • Tech:X10-PLC, X10-RF, UPB
  • Audio:Xantech
  • Video:SageTV
  • Phone:FreePBX

Posted 05 March 2008 - 12:50 PM

...
And the SDK is still available, so anyone that can program in C++ could make it work.
Anyone? :D
...



Sam,

I've started reviewing the posts in Premise SYS Community, to estimate the effort needed to transfer the threads, and I encountered your post on October 9, 2006 asking for the very same thing. You are a patient man! :D

Cocooners, find it in your hearts to take up the UPB torch and help make Sam's dream come true!

;)



I don't know about patient, maybe just too busy too worry about it :D

I just installed the US2-40's so it really hasn't been an issue thus far. I cheated on my HAL/Fry's switches by editing the PCS driver dll directly with XN Resource editor and replacing a few key pieces with the info I needed and those switches work. Unfortunately, the lamp and appliance modules have a different manufacturer ID so I couldn't cheat those. So I've not been able to make them work. So it is quickly becoming an issue now.

But either way, have driver's that are written for the actual devices would certainly be alot better.

I am NOT a programmer, but I do graphics and such. I would love to see alternative interfaces for Premise. I have themed something quite different looking, which I'd be glad to share, but it is based on the stock layout.

Attached File  RetroPremise.jpg   72.39K   190 downloads

We should probably start a "what we want" thread :)

Edited by samgreco, 05 March 2008 - 12:52 PM.





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users