Justin, yes, I have one (12) in my home. Works well running MainLobby. Not recommended for full motion video due to bandwidth constraints, but this is not typically a problem when used as an automation controller interface.
Justin, yes, I have one (12) in my home. Works well running MainLobby. Not recommended for full motion video due to bandwidth constraints, but this is not typically a problem when used as an automation controller interface.
David, could you please ellaborate on this 'bandwith constraint'? Is that because of constraints on your master-host? or constaints on the UTMA connection? I would think only the 'image' of the host comes over the connection, should be equal independant of what is displayed, no?
http://www.touchtronix.com/I was interested in this screen, but I can't seem to find it anymore
I am just looking around for a simple solution for some basic commands from a central panel. I don't really want to use a power eating PC behind it, so terminal are pretty good solutions for that (if you have a server for it that is).Keep in mind, these are not true pc touchscreen. They are terminal services clients. They simply run a remote desktop session to a host pc. This is the real reason they wont run video mentioned earlier in this post. remote desktop doesnt have a true refresh rate, it simply repaints the screen when needed.
You can get a viewsonic airpanel v150 for around $300 on ebay with a 15" screen and its the same as these units.
Keep in mind, these are not true pc touchscreen. They are terminal services clients. They simply run a remote desktop session to a host pc. This is the real reason they wont run video mentioned earlier in this post. remote desktop doesnt have a true refresh rate, it simply repaints the screen when needed.
You can get a viewsonic airpanel v150 for around $300 on ebay with a 15" screen and its the same as these units.
You can have multiple sessions active using UTMA technology.
This is correct. The point I was trying to make (albeit rather poorly) was that in terms of maintenance and concurrent connections, the nComputing device is different than the Viewsonic panel running native RD.You can have multiple sessions active using UTMA technology.
Yes and that clearly violates MS' EULA. Thats why they put a stop to the concurrent login ( the hack you mentioned) in the initial release of XP SP2.
This is correct. The point I was trying to make (albeit rather poorly) was that in terms of maintenance and concurrent connections, the nComputing device is different than the Viewsonic panel running native RD.You can have multiple sessions active using UTMA technology.
Yes and that clearly violates MS' EULA. Thats why they put a stop to the concurrent login ( the hack you mentioned) in the initial release of XP SP2.
As far as licensing and EULA agreements, NComputing appears to be having discussions with Microsoft on this "concurrent" issue. This, as you pointed out, should be looked over by the end user.
FYI, you also should consider the type of device that is placed inside a wall, especially in terms of power/heat dissipation. This was the other point I wanted to make, that this device was made to be installed in such an environment.
Keep in mind, these are not true pc touchscreen. They are terminal services clients. They simply run a remote desktop session to a host pc. This is the real reason they wont run video mentioned earlier in this post. remote desktop doesnt have a true refresh rate, it simply repaints the screen when needed.
You can get a viewsonic airpanel v150 for around $300 on ebay with a 15" screen and its the same as these units.
Keep in mind, these are not true pc touchscreen. They are terminal services clients. They simply run a remote desktop session to a host pc. This is the real reason they wont run video mentioned earlier in this post. remote desktop doesnt have a true refresh rate, it simply repaints the screen when needed.
You can get a viewsonic airpanel v150 for around $300 on ebay with a 15" screen and its the same as these units.
A few corrections:
They will indeed run video. The refresh rate of the video window itself is limited to about 15 fps. This has something to do with the fact that video windows are running with DirectX, which is different from how software is writing to the screen. This is fine for things like a front door camera. In fact, we have manufacturer of security systems using our UTMA displays to display 9 cameras at once, and they are happy with the video quality. What you don't want to do with these, and I think what DavidL was saying, is watch a DVD movie on them. The refresh rate limitation affects video windows only, not the rest of the desktop.
Unlike the airpanel or other thin client, these devices are not a PC and have no OS. The Windows session is running on the host PC, in the background, and rendered on the device. The rendering is done across the network and is rendering 100% of the time. There is no OS on the device. In contrast, the airpanel uses CE as its OS.
To say that an airpanel on ebay is the same as these units is ridiculous. The airpanel is a wireless replacement for your monitor. It was designed by Microsoft and Viewsonic to allow you to occasionally disconnect your monitor from your PC and carry it around the house. The ipTouch products, with NComputing's L200 technology inside, were designed as true in-wall touch screens that share one host computer, running multiple sessions, each with their own IP address, on the host PC.
There is a large performance difference between the airpanel and ipTouch. Our company used to stock and sell the airpanel as part of our product offering so I know them well. They were slow and not always responsive. With a properly sized host PC, the ipTouch is so responsive that you will forget that its not a PC.
There are some limitations to this and any type of similar product. But for many users the limitations far outweigh the costs. For the others, our RelayTouch product is the same as the ipTouch, except without the NComputing inside. With RelayTouch, you can use a variety of cable or extender products to connect the monitor to a PC. You can use individual separate PCs, or one server with multiple video cards. Its even compatible with Vista.
I have a lot of respect for the DIY crowd, and I myself purchase products from eBay to experiment with and roll my own. When I buy from eBay, I understand that I am taking the risk that if the product doesn't do what I wanted it to, or didn't particularly fit my use, then I am stuck with it. Our policy has been and always will be that if you don't like our products for any reason you can return them for a full refund.