urbanscribe
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thanks to DEL and RAL and everyone have been making good progress re-using existing wiring and topping off with new elements (new MS, GB) as well.
the process has been helped by almost illegible scrolls on the old JB which i have been deciphering.
feels like archeology in egypt. anyway
by the way i could not get the LEGACY bus card to ever work properly with my setup. the modern ethernet plugged BUS HUB worked right away after proper cable termination.
have a few remaining questions.
1) knowing a contact wire pair is dead
can i assume that if i test with a multimeter a pair of wires which are supposed to be door/ windows contacts and i get INFINITE (or no short) then it is likely that the wire is dead, cut somewhere possibly and basically DISCARD/DUMP that pair and move on. with all doors/windows closed an open loop means this is not reusable right? any other scenarios you can think of?
2) 2 x 4w fire detectors on a run
i found that several 4-wire fire detectors are daisy chained on a run which i connected to a zone. by shorting either of the detectors i get an alarm. i did not expect this at first but both 1) using the tone + probe, 2) shorting both detectors seem to prove the 2 FD are daisy chained.
can i safely leave this two detector run on the panel on a single zone. i won't be able to rewire which ever is the end one so my only other choice is to disconnect it.
wondering if there is any risk i am not factoring in with having both detectors on the single run back to a single zone.
3) tone + probe
i'm finding the LOUDNESS of the tone to be completely different from circuit to circuit on the JB. that's checking right out of the JB as well as at the end of the circuit. sometimes very loud, sometimes very faint. sometimes nothing. all at same volume on probe obviously. does it make a difference if the circuit you are attaching the tone box to is OPEN or SHORTED? is there ever a time that you would but the + and - of the tone box on both ends of the circuit?
sorry for the basic questions but after a doze fluke videos i still can't tell the above.
4) any recommendations (or warnings) about the CENTRAL STATION services available?
i've started my research, just want to get a sense of how the cellular service connects to the M1 (probably won't use phone - no land line)
5) temperature sensor.
I've connected an ELK temperature sensor (without the probe) to one of the first 16 zones. it seems to recognize it but whenever i look for the temperature (in keypad or elsewhere) i get NOT ENABLED. the zone is defined and not on 0 - disabled. i can only review the temperature of the physical keypad (which has a temp sensor) but neve the probe. is there a magic to enabling it? it does not need to be enrolled or anything. i have not tried to test it using a program, just want to get a reading of the temp F somewhere to verify it works.
thanks in advance.
the process has been helped by almost illegible scrolls on the old JB which i have been deciphering.
feels like archeology in egypt. anyway
by the way i could not get the LEGACY bus card to ever work properly with my setup. the modern ethernet plugged BUS HUB worked right away after proper cable termination.
have a few remaining questions.
1) knowing a contact wire pair is dead
can i assume that if i test with a multimeter a pair of wires which are supposed to be door/ windows contacts and i get INFINITE (or no short) then it is likely that the wire is dead, cut somewhere possibly and basically DISCARD/DUMP that pair and move on. with all doors/windows closed an open loop means this is not reusable right? any other scenarios you can think of?
2) 2 x 4w fire detectors on a run
i found that several 4-wire fire detectors are daisy chained on a run which i connected to a zone. by shorting either of the detectors i get an alarm. i did not expect this at first but both 1) using the tone + probe, 2) shorting both detectors seem to prove the 2 FD are daisy chained.
can i safely leave this two detector run on the panel on a single zone. i won't be able to rewire which ever is the end one so my only other choice is to disconnect it.
wondering if there is any risk i am not factoring in with having both detectors on the single run back to a single zone.
3) tone + probe
i'm finding the LOUDNESS of the tone to be completely different from circuit to circuit on the JB. that's checking right out of the JB as well as at the end of the circuit. sometimes very loud, sometimes very faint. sometimes nothing. all at same volume on probe obviously. does it make a difference if the circuit you are attaching the tone box to is OPEN or SHORTED? is there ever a time that you would but the + and - of the tone box on both ends of the circuit?
sorry for the basic questions but after a doze fluke videos i still can't tell the above.
4) any recommendations (or warnings) about the CENTRAL STATION services available?
i've started my research, just want to get a sense of how the cellular service connects to the M1 (probably won't use phone - no land line)
5) temperature sensor.
I've connected an ELK temperature sensor (without the probe) to one of the first 16 zones. it seems to recognize it but whenever i look for the temperature (in keypad or elsewhere) i get NOT ENABLED. the zone is defined and not on 0 - disabled. i can only review the temperature of the physical keypad (which has a temp sensor) but neve the probe. is there a magic to enabling it? it does not need to be enrolled or anything. i have not tried to test it using a program, just want to get a reading of the temp F somewhere to verify it works.
thanks in advance.