2 35a00 for a 3-way setup

[Darkmcs]

Hi,

I have an unusual setup that I need to work with. A 3-way setup that was not wired for the use of a 37a00 as a slave.

How can I program the slave 35a00 to react with the master 35a00?

I've tried using UPStart... Would creating new links work?

Thanks for any help!

 

[lupinglade]

A 3-way can usually be converted to UPB w/ slave without issues. What's the wiring like?

 

[Geogeer]

I've got a somewhat related problem...
I DO have the proper 3 way wiring for a set of lights controlled by 2 switches.  I asked my HAI provider for a regular 600W switch and an Aux switch.  I got 2 regular switches.  I've done some digging and it seems like this may actually be a good thing because the LED status on the Aux switch is constantly on and doesn't reflect the status of the lights, where 2 regular switches can be configured to reflect the status.
 
I've got the two switches sort of working right now.  One is directly connected to the load and the other has the load wire capped.  The yellow control wires are connected to each other.  I've linked them via an automation block in PC Access, but there has to be a better way to do this.  There is a full second delay when the "aux" switch is pressed, and the lights come on.  What is the purpose of the Yellow "Control" wire that links the two switches?  Is there a way in PC Access to link the two switches, besides the automation block?
 
I haven't got the necessary cables or extra PIM to be able to use upstart just yet.  I'm trying to figure this out without using upstart if possible.
 
Thanks!

 

[pete_c]

 Is there a way in PC Access to link the two switches, besides the automation block?

 
I have a mixture of UPB switches; IE: HAI, SA and PCS here.  (HAI - 40A00-1, 59A00-1, 35A00-1 and 55A00-1 switches)
 
I do not understand your question.  PC Access / HAI panel will talk to the switches in HLC mode or UPB mode depending on your configuration.  Ideally you need to utilize Upstart to get a better view of the switches. 
 
Here I have PCA / HAI OPII talk to the links / define links in PCA that I created with Upstart. 
 
I would recommend disconnecting your HAI PIM from the HAI Panel and connecting it to Upstart such that you can have a better look or just purchasing a UPB PIM "floater" and using it with upstart. I made a serial cable for less than $1.
 
IE: hallway light switches are one wall switch adjacent to every bedroom door that turns on the 2nd floor hallway lighting. (4 switches with one connected to the load)
 
I capped the travelers.
 
In the kitchen there is a similiar setup but a bit more complex.  (8 sets of lights with separate /  multple switches on either side of the kitchen)
 
The original electrican was a master obi wan in the art of doing electrical in my home.

 

[Geogeer]

To try an rephrase, I should first give a little background.  In my old house, I put in an insteon lighting control network.  Hardware reliability made me question its use in my new house and my structured wiring guy suggested HAI.  So I got the OPII installed and have just started adding the HAI lighting as I have time and money.
 
I was used to Powerhome for controlling the UPB insteon stuff.  Steep learning curve, but then it was easy to create links between the switches.  Controller, Responder, the switches talked to each other and were fairly responsive... minimal delay.
 
Now with HAI I'm trying to use HLC mode (perhaps that's my problem to begin with), organizing by Rooms and devices within the room.  Linking 2 switches to mirror each other was so easy in powerhome, but I can't seem to find the equivalent in HLC.
 
Right now, when I press the slave switch on, the OPII reads the press, then finds the code that says when this happens, turn on the master switch too.  Then another block of code to turn it off when pressed off.  Then 2 more code blocks for the master switch to keep the status LED in the slave correct.  This seems like I'm over complicating the issue.
 
So I'm thinking there has to be a reason for the yellow "control" wire on each of the multi-way switches.  Some way for the switches to talk directly between themselves and bypass the OPII.
 
You're right that I do need to just go buy another PIM and cable. 

 

[rsw686]

I've got the two switches sort of working right now.  One is directly connected to the load and the other has the load wire capped.  The yellow control wires are connected to each other.  I've linked them via an automation block in PC Access, but there has to be a better way to do this.  There is a full second delay when the "aux" switch is pressed, and the lights come on.  What is the purpose of the Yellow "Control" wire that links the two switches?  Is there a way in PC Access to link the two switches, besides the automation block?

 
You need to use the HAI auxiliary switch part # 37A00-1 for the slave. When wired together with HAI dimmer part # 35A00-1 the auxiliary switch will control the load just like the master switch does. They communicate over the yellow control wire.