alarm motion detector input via DVR CCTV camera system?

mikesm

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Hi. I am thinking about purchasing a house that has a number of cat 5 wires run to outdoor locations for IP CCTV system using POE cameras, but no motion detectors for a security system. I was wondering if there was a way to have the ip cameras do double duty as outdoor motion detectors via software that is constantly looking at the video and then act as an input to an m1g?

Does such a piece of software exist?

Thx
Mike
 
Welcome to Cocoontech Mike. 
 
A little of this or that DIY CCTV stuff would be a relatively effortless integration with your Elk panel.
 
Kind of doing this today with my HAI OPII panel today.
 
I am playing with my CCTV ZM software to drive hardware events in a virtual sense.  A motion event created by the DVR drives a hardware output indirectly.  I can do the same though putting a digital IO connection to the ZM Linux DVR.   I am doing this is by utilizing X10. 
 
That said though I also use the wired IO sensors of the current Optex combo camera. 
 
I do not depend solely on the CCTV ZM box video motion algorhythms as the only means of motion detection via the outdoor cams.  ZM has the means to receive analog to digital on and off event recording via software or hardware.  It is very flexible.
 
The newest IP cameras (and old ones) do have digtial IO built in (more wires) and now this stuff works through the OS of the camera such that you can add sensors and read the triggers via software of the camera.  More wires one way using digital outputs; no wires the other way using software.  IP CCTV cameras today are little bitty computers these days.  Many CCTV DVRs have digital IO connections built in.
 
From the Axis web site.
Digital inputs and outputs (I/O)
A unique feature of network video products is their integrated digital input and output ports, which enable connection to external devices, such as doorbells, detectors (e.g. smoke, movement, sound, temperature and humidity sensors), lights (including infrared lamps), switches and alarm relays, and which are manageable over the network either from a remote PC or automatically using the camera's built-in logic. The I/Os can be used to eliminate unnecessary transfers of video; that is, unless sensors connected to the network camera or video server are triggered, no video is sent over a network.
When input and output mechanisms are triggered, you can manually or automatically request -- through the Axis network video product or an video management software -- that certain actions be performed over the network as well as through output ports. For instance, images saved from before, during and after an event (called pre- and post-alarm image buffering) can be immediately transferred over the network to specified destinations for recording and storage. At the same time, alerts to specific individuals via e-mail or SMS to a mobile telephone can be sent, and connected external devices such as lights, alarms and doors can be activated.
 
Rest of the article is here:
http://www.axis.com/products/video/about_networkvideo/triggers.htm
 
I'm going to be looking for some outdoor motion detectors to use for triggering my cameras. I'm currently using the software motion detection, but it triggers when large bugs fly by the camera or when the camera auto adjusts brightness. This gives me tons of false alerts/recordings with the cameras.

Any suggestions for outdoor motions to use with the cameras?
 
To the OP: I would not recommend it, unless you've got a high level of analytics on your system, you're asking for trouble if being used for notification purposes.
 
@Jon, it depends on what and where you can run wiring, otherwise you're going to need to figure out what form of RF setup would work in your case.
 
Optex, DS/Bosch outdoor PE or Tritechs (outdoor rated), Redwalls, or Pyramid units would be my first choice, but none are exceptionally cheap.
 
I would be concerned with the reliability of night time motion alerts from day/night cameras. I would assume that you would get a lot of false alerts.
 
You should try IP Camera Viewer or Security Monitor Pro, both security surveillance softwares which support more than 1800 IP popular camera models and DVRs. These are stable products to entrust with your security needs. Before purchasing surveillance software compare security features of security surveillance software. For comparison chart google for IP Camera Viewer.
 
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