ElkRP and Windows 98

[OT1]

Hi,

Is anyone out there using ElkRP on a Win 98 machine??? I am unable to create new rules, such as If the time is 11:00AM and Zone 1 is open then Speak Zone 1 is violated. What happenes is that I run out of system resources, and of course this is a fixed memory size on Win 98. As a result the system the system crashes hard and i have to do a reboot and the drive sectors have to be checked which takes awhile to reload. I was hoping someone had a solution, other than me having to buy a new Win XP laptop with a faster CPU and memory in order to be able to run XP, since all my other alarm system and telephone system programs run fine on Win98. I have a few older systems that I service and that software will not run on Win XP.

 

[Sacedog]

Hi,

Is anyone out there using ElkRP on a Win 98 machine??? I am unable to create new rules, such as If the time is 11:00AM and Zone 1 is open then Speak Zone 1 is violated. What happenes is that I run out of system resources, and of course this is a fixed memory size on Win 98. As a result the system the system crashes hard and i have to do a reboot and the drive sectors have to be checked which takes awhile to reload. I was hoping someone had a solution, other than me having to buy a new Win XP laptop with a faster CPU and memory in order to be able to run XP, since all my other alarm system and telephone system programs run fine on Win98. I have a few older systems that I service and that software will not run on Win XP.

Have you tried running those older programe using Compatability Mode in Windows XP? When we upgraded to XP years ago, we had a lot of applications that had issues running on XP, but running them in Compatability Mode worked great.

If you are looking to get a new laptop, now is a great time to do it with all of the sales for the Holidays. I saw a Toshiba laptop with Windows XP Home on Black Friday for $249 at Best Buy...no rebates to mail in either.

 

[Spanky]

If it will install, it should run on Windows 98. Installshield does not support Windows 98 now. You may have to download MDAC from the Microsofts site for data base compatibility.

 

[OT1]

If it will install, it should run on Windows 98. Installshield does not support Windows 98 now. You may have to download MDAC from the Microsofts site for data base compatibility.

I have had ElkRP (now ver 1.6.16) installed for one year on a Win 98 laptop, it runs and I can do zone programming. BUT, it really sucks system resources from 78% available before the program is started to 25% after a client is opened, to 25% when the rules are opened, to 13% when the "WHENEVER TIME OF DAY is clicked, to 6% when AND Input ZONE 1 Is not Secure, to 0% when i attempt to bring up a THEN statement, as reported by MemoKit.


I wish that you could test this on a true 98SE machine, not a Virtual PC Win98 machine, which unlike a dual boot PC, is not always an accurate means to test and evaluate a program, and you would find a huge, gaping memory leak.

 

[OT1]

Hi,

Is anyone out there using ElkRP on a Win 98 machine??? I am unable to create new rules, such as If the time is 11:00AM and Zone 1 is open then Speak Zone 1 is violated. What happenes is that I run out of system resources, and of course this is a fixed memory size on Win 98. As a result the system the system crashes hard and i have to do a reboot and the drive sectors have to be checked which takes awhile to reload. I was hoping someone had a solution, other than me having to buy a new Win XP laptop with a faster CPU and memory in order to be able to run XP, since all my other alarm system and telephone system programs run fine on Win98. I have a few older systems that I service and that software will not run on Win XP.

Have you tried running those older programe using Compatability Mode in Windows XP? When we upgraded to XP years ago, we had a lot of applications that had issues running on XP, but running them in Compatability Mode worked great.

If you are looking to get a new laptop, now is a great time to do it with all of the sales for the Holidays. I saw a Toshiba laptop with Windows XP Home on Black Friday for $249 at Best Buy...no rebates to mail in either.

As mentioned, many of my older programs will not run on XP. It would be simpler if Elk could plug the memory leaks.

 

[Steve]

As mentioned, many of my older programs will not run on XP. It would be simpler if Elk could plug the memory leaks.

Yea, good luck with that. Elk has some of the best support in the industry but I don't think you are going to find anyone put effort into fixing something on an O/S at least 4 generations old that is not even supported by MS anymore. I don't mean that to come across as harsh or uncaring at all, it's just a reality. If I were in your shoes I would be formulating plans to move all my tools and equipment to more current technologies.

 

[OT1]

As mentioned, many of my older programs will not run on XP. It would be simpler if Elk could plug the memory leaks.

Yea, good luck with that. Elk has some of the best support in the industry but I don't think you are going to find anyone put effort into fixing something on an O/S at least 4 generations old that is not even supported by MS anymore. I don't mean that to come across as harsh or uncaring at all, it's just a reality. If I were in your shoes I would be formulating plans to move all my tools and equipment to more current technologies.

Thanks for your unsolicited advice, however I was enquiring if anyone was still using Win98 and ElkRP, and I reiterate that I CANNOT move all my tools to current technologies, and it will be years before I accept the Vista platform, and ELKRP 1.6.16 is suppose to run properly on Win98SE.

 

[OT1]

As mentioned, many of my older programs will not run on XP. It would be simpler if Elk could plug the memory leaks.

Yea, good luck with that. Elk has some of the best support in the industry but I don't think you are going to find anyone put effort into fixing something on an O/S at least 4 generations old that is not even supported by MS anymore. I don't mean that to come across as harsh or uncaring at all, it's just a reality. If I were in your shoes I would be formulating plans to move all my tools and equipment to more current technologies.

BTW, Win98SE is technically only one generation off XP....lets count them, Win98SE(16 bit, with 32bit interface?, we must call this the 1st generation mathmatically), ME(16 bit a quickly abandoned OS, so it was not any improvment, nor accepted by anyone, condemned you might say, those that had it dropped back to Win98SE, so it is not a generation of anything), Win2000 (32bit 2nd gen), but since Win2000 had 65,000 bugs, MS released Win98SE after Win2000 Beta3, while simutaneously attempting to debug 2000, XP came out about one and a half years after Win2000 (32bit but really not a vast improvement over 2000, really just a debugged Win2000, I dont think there were any new APIs, mostly window dressing, anything designed for 2000 never had problems with XP. So yea Win98SE is maybe 2 years older than XP, however there are millions of machines still using the 7 year old software. MS doesnt like to support older platforms, if they thought they could get away with it, they would come out with a buggy OS every year, and stop support on the previous years just to make a new buck.