GSM Dialer Options

kblagg

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Since the HAI GSM dialer has been discontinued, what are you using/recommending?  I'd prefer to use something that operates similar to the 70A00 where you just pop in a SIM card and you're off and running.  If it makes any difference, it would be used with Alarm Relay.
 
I think you can utilize a Telguard configuration. 
 
Not sure if you can pop a regular SIM card in though and the system appears to be tied in to a monthly account through Telguard.
 
Personally here I am done with AT&T and Verizon for anything related to cellular phones or internet connectivity or TV stuff or telephone stuff.
 
I had AT&T grandfathered services for unlimited mobile internet on a few accounts and they slammed me last year.  I was was told that an internal memo did circulate to a number of vendors to get rid of the grandfathered accounts.  I had multiple accounts with them since the 1990's. 
 
When I first moved here I needed to get on line and used a modem.  AT&T charged me (hundreds of dollars) for modem data usage (idiots that they were)  such that I switched providers and never went back to them for copper telephone use.  I wrote them off back then for copper use and recently for cellular use and now they are on my s-list. 
 
I utilize Verizon for FIOS / Telephone service.  They have slammed my account some 4 times now in the last 2 years.  Each time it has been harder to fix.  I am also done with them and they also are on my s-list these days.
 
pete_c said:
I think you can utilize a Telguard configuration. 
 
Not sure if you can pop a regular SIM card in though and the system appears to be tied in to a monthly account through Telguard.
 
Personally here I am done with AT&T and Verizon for anything related to cellular phones or internet connectivity or TV stuff or telephone stuff.
 
I had AT&T grandfathered services for unlimited mobile internet on a few accounts and they slammed me last year.  I was was told that an internal memo did circulate to a number of vendors to get rid of the grandfathered accounts.  I had multiple accounts with them since the 1990's. 
 
When I first moved here I needed to get on line and used a modem.  AT&T charged me (hundreds of dollars) for modem data usage (idiots that they were)  such that I switched providers and never went back to them for copper telephone use.  I wrote them off back then for copper use and recently for cellular use and now they are on my s-list. 
 
I utilize Verizon for FIOS / Telephone service.  They have slammed my account some 4 times now in the last 2 years.  Each time it has been harder to fix.  I am also done with them and they also are on my s-list these days.
 
 
I'm trying to avoid using a deivce like Telguard that is locked to their service.  I liked the C3 because I could use ATT or TMobile.  I could also use it to dial into the house or as a normal phone line when needed.  Unfortunately Verizon Wireless doenst have coverage in our new neighborhood.
 
You can still purchase a C3 even though it is discontinued.  What cellular coverage does exists in your new neighborhood?  What are you using today for cellular service?
 
You could ask Alarm Relay what equipment they might recommend.  For service, try Consumer Cellular. They use AT&T but rates are lower. You can add 30MB of data to their basic plan for $2.50/month.  You can also share data with your other phone plans and you can change your plan every month if you want, and no contracts.  Prepaid plans might be cheaper, but they can be a pain.
 
pete_c said:
You can still purchase a C3 even though it is discontinued.  What cellular coverage does exists in your new neighborhood?  What are you using today for cellular service?
 
I use Cricket (ATT) for cell.  I considered that but isn't the C3 2G based which will be phased out in the next year or two by the various carriers.  I spoke with Alarm Relay and they charge $19.95/month for alarm monitoring + cell service with the Telguard.
 
I spoke with Alarm Relay and they charge $19.95/month for alarm monitoring + cell service with the Telguard.
 
That is a reasonable price.
 
Does alarm relay only offer this deal with the Telguard device?
 
Here I am not familiar with Alarm Relay as I utilize next alarm dot com.
 
pete_c said:
I spoke with Alarm Relay and they charge $19.95/month for alarm monitoring + cell service with the Telguard.
 
That is a reasonable price.
 
Does alarm relay only offer this deal with the Telguard device?
 
Here I am not familiar with Alarm Relay as I utilize next alarm dot com.
 
They said they had another device that operated on Verizon that was $15.95 a month that included the service.  This does not include the hardware obviously.  They were selling the Telguard for ~180
 
I've been using a C3 with T-Mobil and Alarm relay for the past year with no problems. I'm not sure when T-Mobil will phase out 2G service in my area but will need to switch then. When I signed up with alarm relay they were pushing the Ipdatatel device which provides both a cellular and Internet path. At the time the rep said the hardware was about $150 and the cellular service was about $9/month in addition to the regular monitoring. I was ok with the C3 setup so didn't pursue but will likely go this route once t-Mobil phases out 2g. I think the Ipdatatel device is cdma so I suppose that locks it to Verizon, not sure why they don't make a 4G version.
 
The C3 is a 2G device so will stop working with AT&T next year or sooner according to the multiple 2G Service Termination letters we've received from AT&T. 
 
You can Google search AT&T 2G Sunset for more info but needless to say some other carriers will continue support 2G for a period of time.  The basics are that 3G and LTE support more bandwidth and 2G hardware is low bandwidth so carriers like AT&T want to remove 2G to replace with more LTE hardware to boost network bandwidth speed/connections. 
 
There are some other options out there, some provided by alarm monitoring companies, some other RJ11 to cellular modems used with other systems, and even UMTS cellular gateways including those that may also support SIP (so you can use it for more than just your HAI system). :)
 
Here's a previous thread on this subject. http://cocoontech.com/forums/topic/27616-3g4g-capable-replacement-for-hai-c3-communicator/
 
Here AT&T has done a formal request to the state of not supporting copper lines any more.  My wife here prefers to utilize the copper today rather than the VOIP telephone lines.   I am not using AT&T services for my copper lines (probably the only one in the subdivision today).
 
AT&T (cheap asses) came to our subdivision (100 homes) last year with some great deals using the old cable that was installed many many years ago rather than install the fiber boxes to catXX stuff.
 
In Florida Verizon came in and installed fiber replacing the old copper to a subdivision of 50 homes that was originally built in the 1950's.  There I went from DSL to cable to fiber for internet access.  I have the choice to go back to cable and I might do that mostly related to the piss poor customer service I am getting.  (but it may be worse with Comcast there?)
 
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