RFID and M1

[fleetz]

I have two current applications that require RFID into my M1 systems.

1. I live close to a "T" section and car coming around the corner have the potential to run up our backside if we have to wait for the sliding gate to open. Ideally we would like to be able to get to 60 -70 metres away (180-210feet) and have the sliding gate going. I would need to communicate to the M1 either via RS-485 to a XSP serial expander or via LAN.

2. Using the same reciever I would also like to sort out our friends dog allowing him to come and go again using RFID to activate on this occassion a striker on our front gate when he gets near the gate. The trick is here is how long do you activate the striker??

Anyone had success integrating RFID into the M1??

Cheers,

Fleetz

 

[fleetz]

I have two current applications that require RFID into my M1 systems.

1. I live close to a "T" section and car coming around the corner have the potential to run up our backside if we have to wait for the sliding gate to open. Ideally we would like to be able to get to 60 -70 metres away (180-210feet) and have the sliding gate going. I would need to communicate to the M1 either via RS-485 to a XSP serial expander or via LAN.

2. Using the same reciever I would also like to sort out our friends dog allowing him to come and go again using RFID to activate on this occassion a striker on our front gate when he gets near the gate. The trick is here is how long do you activate the striker??

Anyone had success integrating RFID into the M1??

Cheers,

Fleetz

I actually measured the ideal safe distance that assuming no one is coming the opposite direction when we enter our driveway would be about 100metre (300feet). This would give time for the sliding gateand garage door to fully open. Yep made the task a bit harder. The garage is only 10 metres (30 feet) from street and would be able to install a reciever at the front corner of the house. I would be able to install something permanent in the car and run of the car battery.

Cheers,

Fleetz

 

[paulw11]

Hi,

The CheaperTronics RFID tags and receivers are probably closest to what you are looking for. They have this but its range is only 40 meters.

The receiver simply sends a four character ASCII string that represents the tag via RS232 when it sees the tag. This would be pretty simply to process via a rule.

The problem I see is that you would need to have some way to differentiate between the car arriving in range and the car simply sitting in your driveway with the power on. You could of course switch power on to the transmitter only when you approach the house, but in that case something like this is probably cheaper and simpler.

As far as a solution for your friend, I would probably stick with traditional proximity readers. You can get small keyfob tags and a standard wiegand reader connects directly to the M1 keypad. The reader can be mounted 100 meters away from the keypad.

Paul

 

[thewireguy]

Here is a long range reader. You could do some really cool automation with this.

RFID

 

[paulw11]

Hi Fleetz,

Sorry I miss-read "friend's dog" as "friend" - It would be a very clever dog that could be trained to use a standard proximity reader.

As for the iAutomate reader, it does sound good, but if you read this thread it seems that they aren't very easy to contact and it seems to be impossible to get hold of the protocol specifications for the reader

Paul

 

[BraveSirRobbin]

Just to bring something different to this thread take a look at THIS How-To. I would not normally recommend an X-10 solution for something like this, but it is "just" an outdoor gate (and you are afterall allowing a dog access ).

I don't think you will achieve the distance required uisng RFID. IF you have a W800 RF receiver with an external antenna (I made THIS one) you can easily get double the distance you desire. Plus the cost is pretty cheap using this or a similar methodology.

 

[Spanky]

I recently saw a demonstration of a Blue Tooth receiver that can work with the M1. The receiver connects to your cell phone's blue tooth as you walk in range, and identifies you then it can trip a rule in the M1. Company called ECKey.

 

[Ozuser]

I recently saw a demonstration of a Blue Tooth receiver that can work with the M1. The receiver connects to your cell phone's blue tooth as you walk in range, and identifies you then it can trip a rule in the M1. Company called ECKey.

Looking at the demo vid on ECKey it suggests the adjustment for distance before a bluetooth device unlocks a door is 3ft or more. A problem for some homes where the doorway area is entered during normal living activity. The door would unlock by simply walking past it moving through the house. Great idea but I'd like to see it come down to 1ft in cases where 3ft would lead to accidental unlocking.