Xymox
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Why are people using computers for HA ?
Windows, Unix,,,,, its all the same -- its a PC.
Use a Crestron control system.
A Crestron connected to a 2414S will do Insteon and everything HA. You don't need a computer. Works just like a Smarthome 1132C completly standalone and off the hook programming capability. Uptime in years.
You can find a ST-CP ( discontinued ) on ebay for $150-$250.
- 2 RS232/485 ports. One would be used for the 2414, leaving one free.
- unlimited IR devices and control.
- Crestron RF gateway built in so you can use RF remotes or any of their touch panels
- Cresnet port to connect to a huge range of controllers that will control anything.
- Massive sophisticated programming ability
- Built in clock
- Uptime counted in years - no rebooting ever - extreme reliability - standalone
The only downside I can see is that does not have astrological time.
It can trigger off anything from the 2414 and send out anything through the 2414. This also means you can do anything in crestron with the various input/outputs based on Insteon or X10 triggers. Wanna send RS232 to something from a Insteon event ?
So for $300 including the 2414 you have a Insteon/X10/RS232/IR controller thats beyond anything even remotely close to that price, not to mention the programming capability is pretty much unmatched. Its stand alone, no computer needed. Its uptime is measured in years. Its like a 1132C times a million + Insteon and control of any other device.
http://www.crestron.com/products/show_prod...ump&model=ST-CP
In fact.... For $400-500 on ebay you can find MC2E's.
These babies are stunning and you guys need to go look.
Built in web server and email client. IR/RS232-485/Relays/Ethernet/SNMP/SSL/..
270 MIPS Powerful. Multi threaded/multi tasking. FAT 32 file system.
4 MB of flash for programs.
http://www.crestron.com/products/show_prod...jump&model=mc2e
The downside to all this is that the programming software is not available to the public. At any price. However most people selling Crestron might let you have the software. Its also not Joe Q Public friendly - its a real learning curve and Crestron will not help you and there is no programming manual.
Ive been a crestron programmer for many years. Like 10. So im all good with this solution to my recent Smarthome Manager + 1132CU problem. I just figured others might like what im thinking of doing for themselves.
I do not understand why people are using computers for HA. For a lot less then a computer you can get damn nice hardware that will do circles around any computer doing HA.
If you wanna spend money on the same level that you would on a computer then you get crazy stuff from Crestron. Like a Pro 2 which would exceed anything you could ever want to do. And then some.
http://www.crestron.com/products/show_prod...jump&model=pro2
So remember, you don't need to use touchpanels to control Crestron control systems. ANYTHING RS232 can control crestron. So a 2414S would interface perfectly and be like a 1132C on steroids. Crestron control systems are stand alone automation controllers.
So, if you want to make a HA system thats reliable and serious - don't use a PC. Use a dedicated hardware solution designed for HA.
Used ones are cheap.
So my plan is to wait for a killer deal on a ST-CP and buy a 2414S and I will be very happy. Easily under $300. Bye-bye 1132CU...
I am interested in why people are using computers over a automation controller like these ?
Windows, Unix,,,,, its all the same -- its a PC.
Use a Crestron control system.
A Crestron connected to a 2414S will do Insteon and everything HA. You don't need a computer. Works just like a Smarthome 1132C completly standalone and off the hook programming capability. Uptime in years.
You can find a ST-CP ( discontinued ) on ebay for $150-$250.
- 2 RS232/485 ports. One would be used for the 2414, leaving one free.
- unlimited IR devices and control.
- Crestron RF gateway built in so you can use RF remotes or any of their touch panels
- Cresnet port to connect to a huge range of controllers that will control anything.
- Massive sophisticated programming ability
- Built in clock
- Uptime counted in years - no rebooting ever - extreme reliability - standalone
The only downside I can see is that does not have astrological time.
It can trigger off anything from the 2414 and send out anything through the 2414. This also means you can do anything in crestron with the various input/outputs based on Insteon or X10 triggers. Wanna send RS232 to something from a Insteon event ?
So for $300 including the 2414 you have a Insteon/X10/RS232/IR controller thats beyond anything even remotely close to that price, not to mention the programming capability is pretty much unmatched. Its stand alone, no computer needed. Its uptime is measured in years. Its like a 1132C times a million + Insteon and control of any other device.
http://www.crestron.com/products/show_prod...ump&model=ST-CP
In fact.... For $400-500 on ebay you can find MC2E's.
These babies are stunning and you guys need to go look.
Built in web server and email client. IR/RS232-485/Relays/Ethernet/SNMP/SSL/..
270 MIPS Powerful. Multi threaded/multi tasking. FAT 32 file system.
4 MB of flash for programs.
http://www.crestron.com/products/show_prod...jump&model=mc2e
The downside to all this is that the programming software is not available to the public. At any price. However most people selling Crestron might let you have the software. Its also not Joe Q Public friendly - its a real learning curve and Crestron will not help you and there is no programming manual.
Ive been a crestron programmer for many years. Like 10. So im all good with this solution to my recent Smarthome Manager + 1132CU problem. I just figured others might like what im thinking of doing for themselves.
I do not understand why people are using computers for HA. For a lot less then a computer you can get damn nice hardware that will do circles around any computer doing HA.
If you wanna spend money on the same level that you would on a computer then you get crazy stuff from Crestron. Like a Pro 2 which would exceed anything you could ever want to do. And then some.
http://www.crestron.com/products/show_prod...jump&model=pro2
So remember, you don't need to use touchpanels to control Crestron control systems. ANYTHING RS232 can control crestron. So a 2414S would interface perfectly and be like a 1132C on steroids. Crestron control systems are stand alone automation controllers.
So, if you want to make a HA system thats reliable and serious - don't use a PC. Use a dedicated hardware solution designed for HA.
Used ones are cheap.
So my plan is to wait for a killer deal on a ST-CP and buy a 2414S and I will be very happy. Easily under $300. Bye-bye 1132CU...
I am interested in why people are using computers over a automation controller like these ?