DJK New Construction
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Well,
I hope to be pulling wire over the Christmas vacation. Have a few more speaker brackets to put up and a little more conduit to install. I'll try to get some more pictures in the next few weeks as it gets a little more interesting.
Can't wait to get on the other side of December 21, so that the days start getting longer instead of shorter!
I hope to be pulling wire over the Christmas vacation. Have a few more speaker brackets to put up and a little more conduit to install. I'll try to get some more pictures in the next few weeks as it gets a little more interesting.
Can't wait to get on the other side of December 21, so that the days start getting longer instead of shorter!
DJK,
The project looks like a pile of fun. Out of curiousity why don't I see anyone use dim rail termination blocks that are used in the Commercial automation industry. I have used some of the Euroblocks, they are cheap but don't have flexibility in terms of jumpers and grounding. During the design and implementation of a commercial control system last fall, i gained and great deal of respect for the easy of terminating and control wiring on the DIN rails. These were used mostly for terminating 18awg wires however but keep the following terminator modules in mind on your next project. They could come in handy for certain things, also i really like the ability to have different colors.
Rated for 26-12 awg @ 600v depending on the item.
3 circuit block Automation Direct - triple level termination block
single level termination block - Automation direct - termination blocks pdf
The project looks like a pile of fun. Out of curiousity why don't I see anyone use dim rail termination blocks that are used in the Commercial automation industry. I have used some of the Euroblocks, they are cheap but don't have flexibility in terms of jumpers and grounding. During the design and implementation of a commercial control system last fall, i gained and great deal of respect for the easy of terminating and control wiring on the DIN rails. These were used mostly for terminating 18awg wires however but keep the following terminator modules in mind on your next project. They could come in handy for certain things, also i really like the ability to have different colors.
Rated for 26-12 awg @ 600v depending on the item.
3 circuit block Automation Direct - triple level termination block
single level termination block - Automation direct - termination blocks pdf
dkemme
Member
Does anyone have any pictures how these terminating blocks look on a rail? They look like they could really help clean up the wiring can.
About 1/2 way through pulling the cable runs, which started from longest to shortest. Wow, what a job, so far about 12 man days.
In addition to the great writeups on CocoonTech, I learn a few additional things:
1. Covering the metal in the trusses was VITAL, so that the wire would not snag, bind up, or get nicked. I used extra PVC piping nailed in place which worked great (see picture bridging1).
2. Pull strings suck. They wrap around in the cable, then the next pull is really hard due to the wrapping. We quickly learned that after a pull was done, use a fish tape to lay down the next pull ON TOP of the previous pull. We used a 150' rope from Lowes, and were carefull not to pull too hard.
3. For the corner, I installed a 3" PVC conduit with the it's back cut out. After each pull, the wires are pulled out the back of the corner, so that the conduit is "clean" for the next pull going around the corner. I guess that I could have used pulleys, but for some pulls, we are 24+ wires (see picture corner1).
4. For the spools, I created a jig buy drilling holes in some 2x4's and then putting conduit or rebar (what ever was laying around) for the axle. This works OK, but it's much better to put some nails in the face of the 2x4 so that the axle can be popped out for replacing spools (see picture spools and boxes1)
5. Beldens station wire packing in plastic sucks. It's so coiled that it really wants to wrap around it's nearest neighbor, making it hard to pull just one.
It's gonna be a great feeling when all this is done!
Will post the pictures when some more space can be allocated on the CT server
In addition to the great writeups on CocoonTech, I learn a few additional things:
1. Covering the metal in the trusses was VITAL, so that the wire would not snag, bind up, or get nicked. I used extra PVC piping nailed in place which worked great (see picture bridging1).
2. Pull strings suck. They wrap around in the cable, then the next pull is really hard due to the wrapping. We quickly learned that after a pull was done, use a fish tape to lay down the next pull ON TOP of the previous pull. We used a 150' rope from Lowes, and were carefull not to pull too hard.
3. For the corner, I installed a 3" PVC conduit with the it's back cut out. After each pull, the wires are pulled out the back of the corner, so that the conduit is "clean" for the next pull going around the corner. I guess that I could have used pulleys, but for some pulls, we are 24+ wires (see picture corner1).
4. For the spools, I created a jig buy drilling holes in some 2x4's and then putting conduit or rebar (what ever was laying around) for the axle. This works OK, but it's much better to put some nails in the face of the 2x4 so that the axle can be popped out for replacing spools (see picture spools and boxes1)
5. Beldens station wire packing in plastic sucks. It's so coiled that it really wants to wrap around it's nearest neighbor, making it hard to pull just one.
It's gonna be a great feeling when all this is done!
Will post the pictures when some more space can be allocated on the CT server
SnyperBob
Active Member
About 1/2 way through pulling the cable runs, which started from longest to shortest. Wow, what a job, so far about 12 man days.
In addition to the great writeups on CocoonTech, I learn a few additional things:
1. Covering the metal in the trusses was VITAL, so that the wire would not snag, bind up, or get nicked. I used extra PVC piping nailed in place which worked great (see picture bridging1).
2. Pull strings suck. They wrap around in the cable, then the next pull is really hard due to the wrapping. We quickly learned that after a pull was done, use a fish tape to lay down the next pull ON TOP of the previous pull. We used a 150' rope from Lowes, and were carefull not to pull too hard.
3. For the corner, I installed a 3" PVC conduit with the it's back cut out. After each pull, the wires are pulled out the back of the corner, so that the conduit is "clean" for the next pull going around the corner. I guess that I could have used pulleys, but for some pulls, we are 24+ wires (see picture corner1).
4. For the spools, I created a jig buy drilling holes in some 2x4's and then putting conduit or rebar (what ever was laying around) for the axle. This works OK, but it's much better to put some nails in the face of the 2x4 so that the axle can be popped out for replacing spools (see picture spools and boxes1)
5. Beldens station wire packing in plastic sucks. It's so coiled that it really wants to wrap around it's nearest neighbor, making it hard to pull just one.
It's gonna be a great feeling when all this is done!
Will post the pictures when some more space can be allocated on the CT server
Where are the pictures?
