Alternative power outlets

miamicanes

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Does anybody make in-wall power outlets designed for a "normal" single-gang or double-gang box that arrange the outlets themselves in alternative configurations to maximize their real-world usefulness in a world full of wall warts? For example...

* Single-gang, 3 outlets, Decora-style surround. Two-prong outlet in the middle, with 3-prong outlets above and below that are oriented 180 degrees with respect to each other (ie, grounds furthest from center). That way, you could plug in two typical grounded wall warts (one facing up, one facing down), or plug in two 3-prong plugs and a third two-prong plug.

* Extending the idea a bit, move the two 3-prong outlets a little closer to the middle, and flank THEIR ground leads with 2-prong slots, enabling one or two more things to be plugged in if everything is 2-prong, or enabling two 2-prong wall warts and a 2-prong accessory to be plugged in.

* Double-gang, 8 outlets. Four 3-prong outlets, one in each corner, ground leads located at the furthest point away from the center. Five more outlets... a trio like I described for the first two running down the center, flanked by a 3-prong outlet on either side.

In ASCII art, if "/" and "\" is a diagonal outlet (with ground hole closest to the corner itself), "v" and "^" are 3-prong (point towards ground), "-" is horizontally-oriented 2-prong, and "|" is vertically-oriented 2-prong, something like:


^
-
v

or

\ ^ /
|- -|
/ v \


I mean, this isn't really rocket science... they make screw-on adapters to do similar things... but it would be nice if someone made one that sits flush with the wall itself and does it right from the start.

Has anyone ever seen anything like this? The only explanation I can think of for the apparent total absence of anything like this at the wall-outlet end is that there might be a clause somewhere in the NEC that prohibits new wall outlets with even a single non-grounded receptacle, but leaves a loophole for aftermarket adapters. I'm adding a few new outlets in the living room, and I'm trying to avoid the need for 2->6 screw-on adapters right from day one if I can... but I also don't want to put more than an outlet every 2-3 feet, because then people will complain that it looks bad if I ever have to sell the house someday... so I'm tentatively putting a double-gang box every 30-36" :)
 


That's pretty slick, I've been so mad at Smarthome for the past couple of years over Insteon crap that I've not looked at their catalog or site in a long time.

What I've done to solve that problem is convert some of my single gang outlet boxes to dual and put the outlets in opposite each other, one right side up the other reversed. That was its easy to get at least 2 wall warts in the same outlet when needed. Cost was minimall, maybe $3.00 in parts and half an hour in labor.
 
Ooooh, yeah! The Ascentis must have been the ones I remembered seeing somewhere, but couldn't remember the name. It's a shame they don't sell them at stores like Home Depot or Lowe's. I'm definitely going to order some :blink:
 
Wow, check THIS ONE out! Unfortunately, they don't seem to be available for purchase yet.

Among other things, each half CAN be electrically independent... so you can wire it up so the "normal" orientation is always powered, but the "upside down" orientation is switched.

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Wow, check THIS ONE out! Unfortunately, they don't seem to be available for purchase yet.

Among other things, each half CAN be electrically independent... so you can wire it up so the "normal" orientation is always powered, but the "upside down" orientation is switched.
Now that's a trip... Hopefully that'll be ready for my next house. I've been thinking a lot how cool it would be to have locations all around the room, and with everything you plug in, have the option of turning it on/off as you leave the room. In my office - as I leave, turn off the monitors and speakers (not just standby mode) and leave the PC, and printer on. Leave the Gym and turn everything off on your way out from the switch, including the treadmill, etc. But, would require extra consideration as the house was wired.
 
:)-->QUOTE(Todd B @ Sep 7 2008, 01:39 PM) [post="95983"][/post]
But, would require extra consideration as the house was wired.[/quote]

Not necessarily. Whenever I put in a switch to control an outlet (and I've seen this done before too) I run 12/3 or 14/3 cable from the switch to all of the outlets. The black conductor is always hot and the red conductor is switched. For the outlets that I don't want to be switched I just cap off the red and leave it in the box. Then, as often happens, furniture gets re-arranged or the room gets repurposed and the outlet that was originally switched doesn't make sense anymore, so all I need to do is connect that outlet to the black conductor and connect another outlet to the red conductor and I have a different switched outlet.

I think this is pretty common for newer construction. In fact, the house I just bought had three wall switches in each room... two went to an unused box in the ceiling for light and fan control of a ceiling fan and one went to all of the outlets as I described above.

Brett
 
Another option is to use some of these 1 foot power cord extensions. They are about $1.99 each and are made to be able to use both outlets for wall warts. That way you don't have to mess with the outlet itself. You can also Google for "Outlet saver power extension cord"
 
Well, for what it's worth, I just discovered one potential issue with the Ascenti receptacles... although they look like Decora at first glance, they're a different size and work ONLY with Ascenti-specific wallplates (AFAIK, made and sold only by Leviton). If you intend to use conventionally-colored (white/beige/brown) plastic wallplates, that's probably not a big deal. If you intend to use decorative wallplates, it's probably a deal-killer.

Also, there's a big non-obvious difference between the "triplex" and "6plex" outlets -- the sixplex outlets have a built-in surge protector, and a single sixplex outlet costs a little more than twice as much as a pair of triplex outlets -- roughly $15 vs $65.

They're still pretty cool, though... but I have to admit that I *really* wish the "biceptacle" (double-gang, in particular) were available right now.
 
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