Any leads on shielded and flooded Cat-6?

[signal15]

I need 125-150 feet of it. I can find Shielded and "weatherproof" Cat-6, and I can find Flooded and unshielded. But, I cannot find Cat-6 that is both flooded and shielded.

The other option is 150 feet of direct burial/thin armored fiber. I don't know how to terminate the fiber, nor do I have the equipment, so I would need to find something with ends already on it. Fiber is actually preferable if I can get a good price since it isolates my expensive equipment from lighting strikes (it's going to a camera on a 30 foot pole). If I can find a really good price on the fiber and it's not terminated, I can round someone up to terminate.

Any ideas?

 

[Neurorad]

why shielded?

 

[mustangcoupe]

I have dealt with these guys before on premade fiber with ends all ready for me to install... http://www.stonewallcable.com/Default.asp?

not too bad on price from others I talked to

 

[signal15]

why shielded?

It is going to run through 50 feet of conduit, outside, under a street, right next to romex in the same tube.

 

[Neurorad]

next to Romex in the same conduit, I'd suggest fiber, though I don't know anything about the boxes/connectors on each end that would convert

 

[signal15]

I was talking to a cable installer recently, and he said that running unshielded Cat-6 near romex is not as big of an issue as it was with Cat-5 and Cat-5e. He said with shielding, I should be fine.

I have someone locally that can terminate the fiber for me now. I just need to get it. This same guy I was talking to has 3000 feet of it in his garage, but he doesn't know if it's good for direct burial or not.

 

[BraveSirRobbin]

why shielded?

It is going to run through 50 feet of conduit, outside, under a street, right next to romex in the same tube.

I'm not an "electrical code" expert, but I believe:

1) You can't run romex through a conduit. It has to be separate wires, something due to possible heat build up.

2) I'm not certain of the legality of running both high voltage (ac power) and low voltage (cat 5/6) through the same conduit.

Hopefully a more knowledgeable person on these types of codes can chime in.

 

[mustangcoupe]

why shielded?

It is going to run through 50 feet of conduit, outside, under a street, right next to romex in the same tube.

I'm not an "electrical code" expert, but I believe:

1) You can't run romex through a conduit. It has to be separate wires, something due to possible heat build up.

2) I'm not certain of the legality of running both high voltage (ac power) and low voltage (cat 5/6) through the same conduit.

Hopefully a more knowledgeable person on these types of codes can chime in.

I believe you are right on both cases, I think you need THHN? in conduit for power and then you cant run the LV in the same conduit unless it's jacket is rated to the same voltage that the High voltage it.

 

[signal15]

The romex is direct burial if that makes a difference. I'm not exactly worried about code for this particular project. The current draw off the romex is going to be about 12 watts maximum, only 6 watts to start with.

 

[Neurorad]

If the Romex is for power to 1-2 cameras, can't use use something else instead of the Romex?

I think you can use direct burial unshielded cat5e or cat6 then, in the same conduit as 18/2.

I don't think cat6 provides much more protection than cat5e.

Is POE an option?

 

[Sacarino]

why shielded?

It is going to run through 50 feet of conduit, outside, under a street, right next to romex in the same tube.

I'm not an "electrical code" expert, but I believe:

1) You can't run romex through a conduit. It has to be separate wires, something due to possible heat build up.

2) I'm not certain of the legality of running both high voltage (ac power) and low voltage (cat 5/6) through the same conduit.

Hopefully a more knowledgeable person on these types of codes can chime in.

I believe you are right on both cases, I think you need THHN? in conduit for power and then you cant run the LV in the same conduit unless it's jacket is rated to the same voltage that the High voltage it.

Actually, if you're running it in a conduit underground, it needs to be THWN, which means waterproof. Usually THHN is dual rated THHN/THWN, but definitely check to make sure. Some people try and sneak Romex in by stripping off the sheath... The inspector will make you re-pull it if s/he catches it. The most obvious at-a-glance giveaway is the bare ground, followed by the unmarked wire. The comment about the LV is correct as well, if I recall correctly.

I don't have my NEC book with me at the moment but I can provide the relevant text later if needed.

 

[signal15]

If the Romex is for power to 1-2 cameras, can't use use something else instead of the Romex?

I think you can use direct burial unshielded cat5e or cat6 then, in the same conduit as 18/2.

I don't think cat6 provides much more protection than cat5e.

Is POE an option?

POE is an option, and I will probably power the camera with an injector or POE switch. But since I'm pulling wire, I want to pull all that I can so I don't have to go back and pull more later.