Are you worried about the Coronavirus?

Are you worried about the Corona Virus

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • No

    Votes: 8 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • Total voters
    24
Understood Mike. 
 
How many of us can say that we want to spend our lives helping other people?
 
Not as many today as yesteryear.  Large institutions today are managed by a board of overseer folks who mostly care about money.
 
They many have 1-2 doctors (or more) on the hospital boards who have no voices. 
 
One of Sandy's oldest friends has a daughter who is a nurse in a hospital on the East Coast (by you)
 
She was told not to wear a mask because it looked bad.  She did get the virus and couldn't work for a bit.  The neighbors son (in his 40's) works in a hospital in the accounting department.  He also got the virus just working there and was sick for a few weeks.
 
Sandy (wife) had a hip replaced a few years ago and was sent to an old folks home for rehab.  What a joke that was.  I stayed with her 18 hours a day and watched.  
 
pete_c said:
Understood Mike. 
 
How many of us can say that we want to spend our lives helping other people?
 
Not as many today as yesteryear.  Large institutions today are managed by a board of overseer folks who mostly care about money.
 
They many have 1-2 doctors (or more) on the hospital boards who have no voices. 
 
One of Sandy's oldest friends has a daughter who is a nurse in a hospital on the East Coast (by you)
 
She was told not to wear a mask because it looked bad.  She did get the virus and couldn't work for a bit.  The neighbors son (in his 40's) works in a hospital in the accounting department.  He also got the virus just working there and was sick for a few weeks.
 
Sandy (wife) had a hip replaced a few years ago and was sent to an old folks home for rehab.  What a joke that was.  I stayed with her 18 hours a day and watched.  
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I especially appreciate a competent, caring hospital nurse. When you are confined to a hospital bed you are completely dependent on your nurse and you learn just how important they are and how large a part they play in you getting better or not. You are dependent on them for everything and some care very much and some not so much.
 
I can go on but that's another topic so I'll stop now.
 
Mike.
 
 
One more thing about the hospital. I agree with you Pete about many hospital employees being in it for the money but I think that nursing is where the rubber hits the road. A person may get into nursing for the money but I doubt that they will last very long. You couldn't pay me enough to do what nurses do day in and day out.
 
Mike.
 
Personally have faith in my family physician and we did have a long talk mostly related to the pandemic last week.  His office cares and cares about what they do.
 
He was very open and honest in our conversation telling me what he knew and what he doesn't know. 
 
I did ask about this stuff on my visit with him in January 2020.  
 
NOTE: He has retained his knowledgebase about medicine and virology which is part of the basics.
 
In Ontario it would be very hard to get a face to face appointment with a GP or any doctor.  Most I have heard about have been online using Zoom or other software. It does make us patients wonder about how much of the previous appointment necessities, included some money driven BS though.
 
I haven't had a prostate check online yet!  :rofl:  but then I haven't had a face to face one in the last five years anyway.  Suddenly when the healthcare system is mostly bankrupt, the need seems to go away for most previously urgent and important procedures.
 
Things have changed and some haven't adapted to it. I remember when newscasters spoke perfect English, and almost everything they said was factual and double checked by a manager, because they could be litigated. Now newscasters can be opinionated, jerks posing a fact givers, using foul language, exaggerations, lies,  and slurring their slang in a very poor example for young and developing people.
 
Us old focks are still learning to filter out our old reliable truth sources. Many of the new gen people have an even harder time not swallowing all the BS. It is becoming a problem but people have to learn to do further research and use their brain based filters.

Either that or "defund" the Internet. :rofl:
 
I saw an interview with one of the old time newsmen and he said that in his day they spent all day researching and verifying the facts of the story that they would report on th TV that evening. they had all day to do this because they only had the one broadcast in the evening news. They spent all day on teh phone or running around developing their story.
 
Now any dope can shoot off an Iphone video to the news channel and if it's exciting enough it is aired in the blink of an eye.
 
mikefamig said:
I believe that the reason that we are having this conversation in the first place is that there is no source of information in this country that isn't biased by advertising dollars and politics. The media is self serving and reckless in their reporting. Keeping this in mind I still have to believe my eyes when I see hospitals loaded beyond capacity with patients (of any kind). I see a shortage of respirators and I see trucks full of dead bodies parked behind hospitals.
 
You know it wouldn't matter what you and I believe if we had some sort of organization that was prepared to deal with a tragedy like this one. Maybe we could call it a government or something like that. What we need is strong honest leadership that can take advantage of the fact that we are the wealthiest nation in the world and use our wealth of resources in the best interest of the people of the United States of America.What we got is crap. We should be able to place our trust in the people that we have entrusted with our health and well being. I no longer trust the FDA to work in our best interest and I no longer trust the EPA to work in our best interest and I'm kinda feeling like we're all screwed.
 
I wish I had your optimism.
 
Mike.
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Sure. The FDA and the CDC have been caught lying to the public before, and some admissions of lying followed when they were caught. It is hard to know what to believe these days. I usually aim for the middle somewhere and figure that is about as close as we will ever get to know. The propaganda machine is very powerful with the Internet these days. **SIGH**
 
I would be sure this applies to almost all big groups anyway. The almighty buck rules.
 
I have heard for a few people now with a lot of statistical and logical ammunition, one thing in common. Come November, all this rioting, animosity, lockdown, etc.. will all disappear.
Personally, I am beginning to believe that is about 90% true. People are all really wound up, and everything becomes paramount.
 
mikefamig said:
Florida cases reported in a single day
 
https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/florida-coronavirus-state-reports-record-8942-new-cases-in-single-day/
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After the restrictions were relaxed, an increase in coronavirus cases is to be expected. There is some hope that the dramatic increase in the new cases may not translate into e corresponding increase in the number of deaths because now the number of cases is skewed towards younger population (as opposed to the nursing home disaster).  The median age of the new cases is 34 years in FL and 38 in TX.
 
If the infection mortality rate distribution is what it has been observed to be: i.e. heavily skewed in the opposite direction, then there is some hope that the NYC disaster won't repeat itself in TX, FL, AZ or CA. E.g., here's the IFR distribution from a Swedish source:
 
Age 0–49 0.01%
Age 50–59 0.27%
Age 60-69 0.45%
Age 70-79 1.95%
Age 80-89 7.20%
Age 90+ 16.21%
 
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/contentassets/53c0dc391be54f5d959ead9131edb771/infection-fatality-rate-covid-19-stockholm-technical-report.pdf
 
In FL, the mortality rate has been relatively constant (3 day smoothed curve) despite an 4x increase in new cases between June 4 and 13. In GA, the curves actually diverged somewhat: an increase in new cases but a decrease in the number of corona deaths.  With the recent spike in FL, we'll have to wait about two weeks to see if a replay of NYC will happen or not.
 
Thank God we live in the republic of the United States of America. This is not and shall never be a democracy where “the majority will rule”. That’s called mob rule. A classic example is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. A rule by the majority often leads to minorities being treated very poorly. We have God-given inalienable rights that can’t be stripped by an unruly majority (or anyone else). That’s why our judiciary and ultimately the 2nd amendment exist.


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“... and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all”


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According to the Johns Hopkins infection cases map by county, Alabama has it much worse than any other state but all we hear about is Texas and Florida right now.
 
Some of the counties in Alabama are running over 4K per 100K population. 4x any other state.
 
TrojanHorse said:
Thank God we live in the republic of the United States of America. This is not and shall never be a democracy where “the majority will rule”. That’s called mob rule. A classic example is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. A rule by the majority often leads to minorities being treated very poorly. We have God-given inalienable rights that can’t be stripped by an unruly majority (or anyone else). That’s why our judiciary and ultimately the 2nd amendment exist. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I stand corrected, I made a bad choice of words.
 
LarrylLix said:
According to the Johns Hopkins infection cases map by county, Alabama has it much worse than any other state but all we hear about is Texas and Florida right now.
 
Some of the counties in Alabama are running over 4K per 100K population. 4x any other state.
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I think that it is the rate of rise that is the concern in FL and TX. It suggests that re-opening is a bit premature.
 
Mike.

I want to add that I'm all for re-opening but I can't believe that anyone believes it's OK to open bars and let people drink and mingle as usual. It's about the best way I can think of to help the virus spread.

Mike.
 
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