Elk M1G Problem

[Mike P]

Hi,

I am having a small problem that I can't seem to figure out. I have an M1 with about 80 input zones the first 16 are fire. Saturday afternoon I walked into the house and the keypad was beeping and displayed fire trouble. I reset it through Elk RP. All was fine after that. Sunday morning, The same thing happened. I checked in RP and saw that is was zone 1. I removed the smoke(GE 541NCSXTE four wire with built in eol relay) and checked the wiring. All fine, But still in trouble. I went to the panel, Tightened the terminals and removed and reseated the terminal strip on the Elk. All cleared. No more fire trouble.

The problem is, Now the keypad emits one low beep about every thirty seconds... :huh: There is no indication at the keypad or in RP that there is a trouble or problem. Anybody ever have this happen? if so, how was is corrected. I am sure a reboot of the panel should clear it, But I would like to find out the cause.

My system consists of the following.

1 M1G
1 M1KP
4 M1XIN
1 M1XOVR
1 M1XEP
1 M1XSP(UPB)

Any sugestions,

Mike


Another Problem, Lets see who can figure this one out.......

UPB in place for a year....100% not a single failure. Last week I went to work and the lights over the garage were on I shut them off and figured that was my first failure. The next night I walked out into the driveway around 2130 and the lights were off. They should go off at 2345.

Any guesses......

 

[Steve]

Not sure about the smokes. I assume Zones 1-16 have a 4 wires smoke on it each with EOL. What is the zone config? Does the log show anything?

On the UPB issue, is it the same light you mentioned? Sounds like it missed a few signals. Did you loog at signal and noise in UpStart? That should be your first action item. See what the signal is at that light. Is it on the same phase as the Elk CIM (assuming Elk is controlling it). Is there any noise on the line? UPB is great, but not perfect. After > year of near flawlessness I too started having some issues. Turns out something happened where my phases did not pass signal as good as before - maybe the transformer outside is going or something, but installing a phase couple boosted the signal back up and is helping. A phase coupler is recommended but many (including myself) don't put one in at first if things look good, but anything can happen (and usually does), so a phase couple might be in order. But the great thing with UPB is all you need to do is some testing with the free UpStart software.

 

[Spanky]

You may have a trouble that cleared the display but needs an acknowledge. Press the star key (*) or cycle the M1's power with the ON/OFF switch on the M1 control. The log should have the trouble logged.

 

[Mike P]

Spanky,
Thanks, The * button did it.

Has anybody figured out the second question(It is kind of a joke) I already know the answer. Hint...Don't think to techinical......

Mike

 

[mustangcoupe]

dont tell us you have a non controlled switch in series with a controlled one... and you turned off the wrong one!?!?!?!?

 

[Mike P]

Nope... Nice Try....I'm a little smarter than that, But the real answer is a little embarrassing....Next

Mike

 

[Lagerhead]

AM / PM mixup.

 

[DaveW42]

Last week I went to work and the lights over the garage were on :huh: I shut them off and figured that was my first failure. The next night I walked out into the driveway around 2130 and the lights were off. They should go off at 2345.

You shut off the lights at the switch the night before. That's why they didn't go back on (they were off at the switch).

Did I get it?

Dave

 

[Mike P]

Nope and Nope

Anymore?

 

[WayneW]

burned out bulb?

 

[Mike P]

OK, The answer is .........WIFE.........1st. She walked the dogs late, Lights already off, She turned them on and forgot to turn them off. 2nd. Lights came on as always, She walked in and turned them off. Had me puzzled for a couple of days. I mentioned to her that I may have a lighting problem, She laughed and said "No problem, just me". It made me think, look for the simple stuff first when something goes wrong. I should know better.

Mike

 

[BraveSirRobbin]

OK, The answer is .........WIFE.........1st. She walked the dogs late, Lights already off, She turned them on and forgot to turn them off. 2nd. Lights came on as always, She walked in and turned them off. Had me puzzled for a couple of days. I mentioned to her that I may have a lighting problem, She laughed and said "No problem, just me". It made me think, look for the simple stuff first when something goes wrong. I should know better.

Mike

You caved to early. I would have let them keep guessing as to the cause for at least through the weekend!

 

[WayneW]

No sane reader would ever postulate in writing that somebody's wife would sabotage their automation for fear of giving their own wife ideas.