Elk/Next Alarm - Fire - Delay for reporting or call to verify?

[personalt]

Is there a way to set the elk alarm to delay for reporting of fire alarms? my concern would be if detector goes off by mistake I dont want them running the trucks. Is that something I can do on the elk, if not do you know if next alarm calls to verify fire alarms?

 

[rfdesq]

See page 30 of the M1 Installation manual. Does a definition 11 work for you?

 

[personalt]

See page 30 of the M1 Installation manual. Does a definition 11 work for you?

Maybe - I am running a relay from my 120v detectors into the 2 wire trigger. When any of the alarms go off the interconnect gets power triggering the relay. I am using this relay

http://www.selectsafetysales.com/p-217-kid...ule-sm120x.aspx

Based on the manual it sounds like I have 25 seconds to get the detector to stop trigging so the interconnect line goes to zero and zone 16 goes back to open.

I will have to test tonight but I am wondering if I can do anything at the keypad when the inital trigger to tell it that it is a false alarm.

Last week I was heating some shrink tube in my media closet and I set the detectors off, I am not sure if I was able to get the detector to stop in 25 seconds.. A perfect answer would be if I could stop it at the keypad in that first 25 seconds rather then running to get a step stool and fanning the detector.

From manual
"Fire 24 hr Verified - For smoke detectors in high-risk false alarm areas. Upon initial activation (short across the zone), the control ignores the alarm and removes smoke power for 5 seconds to reset the detectors. During this 5 seconds, and for 20 additional seconds afterwards, no alarms will be recognized from this zone.

Following this is a 60 second verification time window, during which any additional activation will be regarded as verification of the initial alarm and the control will initiate a Fire Alarm. If the 60 seconds expires with no further activations, the entire process is cleared (reset). A Fire Trouble will be activated if an open (break in the zone wires) occurs."

 

[personalt]

sounds like I could also use the dialer delay check box

 

[rfdesq]

sounds like I could also use the dialer delay check box

Remember anything you do decreases your life safety and increases emergency response times. Have you thought about a heat sensor as opposed to a smoke detector in those troubling areas?

 

[personalt]

sounds like I could also use the dialer delay check box

Remember anything you do decreases your life safety and increases emergency response times. Have you thought about a heat sensor as opposed to a smoke detector in those troubling areas?

yes, I totally agree I dont want to delay response times more then needed as it makes the the house less safe.

I was thinking about changing the two detectors closest to the kitchen for heat detectors but I was wondering if during a real fire these would have slower response times then if I used the dialer delay on a regular detector. Anyone know much about that? I tried to read a doc that talked about response times of detectors but it mostly was ionization vs photoelectric and didnt talk much about heat detectors.

If the heat detector is slower I was thinking that I would rather have a regular smoke detector scream right away and delay the dial-out then have the detector wait longer to sound.

I do also recognize that every once in a while I set off the detectors by mistake. I did it just a few weeks ago when using a heat gun to shrink some heat-shrink tubing. I didnt see any smoke but sure enough it set it off. I would want at least a few seconds to cancel this before they roll the trucks.

 

[rfdesq]

FWIW, I use heat detectors in garages, workshops, and kitchens. I use smoke detectors in living areas, i.e. bedrooms, hallways.