Extending RS485 on Elk M1G with media converters

lfoley

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Has anyone had any success extending the RS485 buss with a media converter?

I am unable to do so with a RS485 to Fiber converter set to a baud rate of 38,400. Along with 8,1,N.

I can verify the tunnel functionality with a different RS485 source-target.
 
Once you introduce fiber converters into the mix you may have timing issues. I have had some experiance with other products that have had some quirks. For example, once you install one remote device on a data port you have to use drop and repeat fiber units for all devices on the data path. Spanky would be the best person to ask on this one.(As with all other Elk related issues)
 
I think you are correct, Timing may be an issue.

I would be grateful if anyone has specific details about word structure and timing requirements.

I'm not sure how to contact Spanky.
 
You can just contact Spanky (David) via Elk Support. Brad or Amy can get him if needed. Or he will probably reply here when he sees this. I guess my 'curiosity' is why you need to do this in the first place? I thought the bus over standard copper was good for quite a distance (like 2000 feet or so iirc).
 
Good Question-

This is a unique site with a remote building and no copper wires. Just dark fiber and power to the far end.
 
Good Question-

This is a unique site with a remote building and no copper wires. Just dark fiber and power to the far end.

Remote building...Install another ELk M1G or EZ8. The cost of the fiber units would be very close to, if not more than the extra panel, IMHO.

Depending on how much fiber you have it would be a shame to waste 2 strands on such a low bandwidth.
 
I can transport and supervise Applied Digitals RS485 gear through the link as well. I also neglected to mention the need for a remote keypad on the same node.
I’m a big fan of Elk Products and was intrigued by the possibilities of this project and future projects that may fall into a similar realm.
 
You have about 4 milliseconds from the end of a data packet until the acknowledged data starts flowing in the opposite direction on the RS-485 data bus. The turn around time of the repeaters normally kill the first byte or two of data that is being returned.


Due to the turn around time you can not put two M1DBHR active data bus hubs in series on the M1 bus. It takes too long for the combination of the two, to reverse the data direction without loosing characters.
 
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