HAI OmniPro II programming question

[mlefevre]

I'm trying to do some programming to automatically turn an HLC light off 10 seconds after it is turned on.  Here is the automation:
 
43.    WHEN Stairway ON PRESSED
            THEN Stairwell light timer ON FOR 10 SECONDS
44.    WHEN Stairwell light timer OFF
            THEN Stairway OFF
 
Stairwell light timer is a flag (unit 396).  I find that step 43 never turns the flag on.  I do know that if I manually turn the flag off while the light is on, the light goes off so step 44 works correctly.  If I monitor the status of flags and turn the light switch on, I do not see the timer flag turn on.
 
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
 
Thanks,
Marc

 

[Desert_AIP]

Is the Omni otherwise tracking the status of the light OK?
Fire up UpStart and monitor the UPB network to see if the "ON" command is being transmitted by the switch.

 

[mlefevre]

Desert_AIP:
I've been trying to figure out how to do this in upstart but can't.  Could you give me instructions please?
 
Thanks,
Marc

 

[neillt]

In UPStart, go to Tools > Open Log Viewer.  This will show you all of the UPB signals the PIM is picking up.
 
Once you have that open, go turn on your stairway light and see if there is a "Report State" line for the light in question.  If there isn't, you need to program that dimmer to report it's new state when the rocker switch has been pressed, which is normally under the Rocker Switch tab for most dimmers.
 
If it *is* there, then it's time to focus on the Omni.
 
Let us know what you see in UPStart and we will go from there.

 

[mlefevre]

Here is what I see in the log for a press top (on) followed by a press bottom 3 seconds later:
 
2,05/05/2013 22:30:46,2/2,84,State,1,Unit 001 - Stairway - Stairs,,0,,,100
1,05/05/2013 22:30:46,4/4,84,Indicate,255,,,-2,[multiple receivers],,
1,05/05/2013 22:30:48,4/4,84,Indicate,255,,,-193,,,
2,05/05/2013 22:30:49,2/2,84,State,1,Unit 001 - Stairway - Stairs,,0,,,0
 
Thanks for the help finding the log.  It looks like the PIM sees the presses.  BTW, I enabled the check boxes for sending state (in upstart) for all of my HLC switches.  They were off by default.  Despite that, other automation based on presses does work without that enabled.
 
Marc

 

[Desert_AIP]

HAI monitors the UPB net.
When it sees a switch send a state change or one ofnthe room commands, it requests status from alll switches in the room.
If you aren't seeing the Omni send the status requests, then it isn't seeing the change.

Check that in your units setup in PCAcces, you have that light designated as HLC and not UPB.

 

[neillt]

Well, so I am assuming you have PC Access, or one of the smartphone apps.  When you turn the stairway light on, is that status reflected on the Omni via one of those interfaces?  

 

[iceverything]

You need another programming line.  
When Stairway Light Timer is on then Turn on Stairway.  

 

[Desert_AIP]

I believe the ON press is already turning on the light.

 

[mlefevre]

The switch is one I just installed but it is configured for HLC and not UPB (I have PC Access).  When I monitor the switch in the Status/Control tab adn switch the light on manually, the status for the light does NOT get updated.  So, I guess I should have looked there first and concluded that the switch press is not being detected by the Omni.  BTW, This is a 3-way light configuration and I'm testing with the remote switch if that makes any difference.  I can't imagine that it does but this is full disclosure.
 
Thanks for hanging in there with me.  Is there a log from the Omni that I can see what UPB events it sees?
 
Marc

 

[Desert_AIP]

I think you need to use the "when light is ON" trigger vice the switch pressed trigger.
The remote switch might not transmit the "pressed" code.

 

[neillt]

You need to figure out why the Omni doesn't think the light is turning on... can you control it from the Omni keypad or PC access?

 

[mlefevre]

Sorry, I've been consumed by higher priorities for a few days.  Thanks for the suggestions.  Yes, I can control the switch from PC access and the OmniPro II.  To answer neillt's question, when I actuate the switch, the status is NOT reflected in the OmniPro II status display.
 
So, to summarize:
 

• I can control the switch from PC Access the OmniPro II or upstart
• The Omni Pro II does NOT see teh switch status changes (that's why the automation does not work)
• The log in upstart shows the switch actions
• I can turn on the light in PC Access and then set the stairway switch timer flag to count down and when it hits zero, the switch turns off
• The switch is configured for HLC (not UPB) in PC Access
• I also have tried changing the unit ID of the switch with no luck

 
Thanks for all of the help.
Marc

 

[Desert_AIP]

See my post above.

 

[neillt]

OK, well now we really need to focus on why the OPII doesn't see the status update.
 
If you can, move the computer and PIM you use for UPStart to the exact same outlet you use for the OmniPro PIM.  Open the log viewer and try testing again.  Do you still see the status update?
 
The whole reason your automation isn't working is because the OPII doesn't know the light turned on.  So we need to figure out if it's your house wiring (which we are testing by bringing UPStart to the same outlet) or some other strangeness.