Main door connected to keypad

[Wally32]

Hi everybody,

Read all kinds of different post here before starting my M1 installation but didn't find something for my problem. I finishs hooking up all my zones but can seam to figure out how to connect my main door to keypad. My builder passed all the wires for and brought the door sensor to my keypad. The keypad does say it can supervise an input.

That being said, I have 4 wire going from the keypad to my panel and need to connect the other. On the keypad I have the blue And the brown left. I assuming the blue should connect to the black from the wire going to the panel and leave the brown unattached.

Any advise?

 

[newalarm]

you blue and brown should be signal wires. If you need power, you get it of the red and black. The manual shows this in the wiring diagram of the keypads, assuming you have an M1G.

Are you saying that he ran the wire for the front door contact to the keypad? Make sure you test the wires for continuity when closed.

 

[Wally32]

Yes the wire from the door is ran to the keypad.

 

[KenN]

Read the instructions ... M1KP2 instructions are here, other keypads are similar:

http://www.aartech.ca/docs/M1KP2.pdf

Page three shows the wiring using blue and black wires when using the keypad as an optional zone input. You need to:

1) Add group 13 inputs to your Elk configuration (zones 193-208).

2) Know what keypad address (1-16) is assigned to the keypad you're wiring.

3) configure the zone in the elk appropriate to the keypad address - keypad 1 is 193, keypad 2 is 194, etc.

4) wire up the contact and configure the type in M1 (NO/NC/EOL, etc)

5) test

6) done.

 

[Wally32]

Im definetely missing something. I am looking at the manual and the above post and cant seem to get it right. I know many are probably saying the picture in the book is simple but Its not working for some reason :horse:

This is what I have:

I have 4 wires connected to my keypad. This part is easy. Black with black, Green with Green, White with Yellow and Red with Red. The next part is what's throwing me off. The 2 wires coming from the door sensor that would need to be connected to the keypad are Green and Yellow. The 2 left wires from the keypad Blue and Brown.

I tried multiple combinations and cant get to do it right.

What are the chances someone helps me by indicating step by step what I can do to hook this up. My wife is annoyed that no alarm is connected :blink: and im out of ideas.

Please help. I will own you a few beers
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[KenN]

Did you open up the keypad manual that I linked? I don't think it gets any more clear than page three, top left of the diagram labelled "hookup diagram for M1KP2 keypad". You have a green and a yellow from the door contact. Connect one of those (green) to the BLUE wire of the keypad harness. Connect the remaining (yellow) to the BLACK wire of the keypad harness. Yes, the black wire that is already hooked up to the home run back to the Elk - so there will be three wires into one connector - black from harness, yellow from door contact and black back to Elk.

If you've done all that, then your wiring is complete. Then you have to make sure the software at the Elk is configured correctly.

 

[KenN]

Just to be even more explicit, you do not use the brown for this. That is used for an optional OUTPUT.

 

[Wally32]

Thanks KenN. Thats what I got from your first post I guess its the configuration I need to make sure of. Once I figure this out all I have left is the fire trouble to get the system up and running and armed.

 

[Wally32]

Read the instructions ... M1KP2 instructions are here, other keypads are similar:

http://www.aartech.ca/docs/M1KP2.pdf

Page three shows the wiring using blue and black wires when using the keypad as an optional zone input. You need to:

1) Add group 13 inputs to your Elk configuration (zones 193-208).

2) Know what keypad address (1-16) is assigned to the keypad you're wiring.

3) configure the zone in the elk appropriate to the keypad address - keypad 1 is 193, keypad 2 is 194, etc.

4) wire up the contact and configure the type in M1 (NO/NC/EOL, etc)

5) test

6) done.

I set up all my current zones but I dont understand how can I set up a zone one this one since the wire are going to the keypad not the panel. I know the keypad address is 1 because I only have 1 keypad for now. I set up zone 193 because thats the zone to use for 1 keypad it is set to NC but I feel like I'm missing something

 

[KenN]

All I can say is test everything. It's best if you have everything laid out on a table (bench testing) because you can try a lot of things very quickly and see the results right away. As it sounds like you've got everything installed, so that may not be an option.

Are you doing all your programming of the Elk via keypad or do you have a laptop with RP software? If you're using RP, then you can at least speed up the changes and testing. The RP "status" window is invaluable, you can test something and see what the Elk is seeing within a second.

I would troubleshoot this by taking your door contact out of the picture entirely. Pull the keypad and VERY CAREFULLY do some testing with a wire jumper (alligator clips are a godsend!) to connect the brown and blue. You need to be super super careful not to short out anything on the keypad circuit board, or you'll toast it!! This will allow you to make multiple changes to your Elk config settings, and observe the effect.

You need to be absolutely certain of the keypad's address setting, as the zone number follows the keypad's address.
You need to be sure the zone is enabled. For testing, I would set the zone definition to 16 (non-alarm).
You might even want to set fast loop response ON for testing.

Not much else to add here, you just have to narrow it down with more testing I figure.

 

[Wally32]

The main door is now successfully connected to the keypad. The chime sound also works. Thanks KenN.

 

[Wally32]

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