IVB
Senior Member
Why wouldn't you store the password/public calendar approach? That's what i'm planning on doing, wondering what issue there is with that.
Migrating wife to an online "Family Calendar"
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Why wouldn't you store the password/public calendar approach? That's what i'm planning on doing, wondering what issue there is with that.
In difference to mustangcoupe, I guess I would ask the following:
While it may be an "intranet" in that it is viewable only on your internal network, does that "intranet" also have a connection to the internet? if so, then it is pretty trivial, you just have to "wrapper" the google calendar in your intranet site. When you click on your intranet's "calendar" link, it just pulls content from calendar.google.com. You did ask about doing it without logging in. This may be more involved as you might have to use the GCal API, but I believe that still requires a login to set a cookie.
Simply put, it is possible to make it "appear" as part of your intranet... but not sure about doing it without login, as that is how google identifies what calendars you see...
Because public calendars are searchable by all google calendar users. So if you have some identifying information in one of your events and someone stumbles upon the right set of search words for an event matching that description, there could be a problem.
To date, i have used the approach to specifically share a private calendar by the email address of the person I want to share my calendar with, in this case my wife. Our family calendars are readable/writable by both of us, but our "personal" calendars are viewable by each other but only I can modify my own calendar, and my wife to hers.
(This is a common issue with google applications. Search is their business...
I had to make sure that the settings options in Picasa would not allow my public galleries to be seen by the general Picasa search. no such option exists in GCal).
mustangcoupe
Senior Member
well there are 2 intermingled items here
1. Public calendar - EVERYONE can see it and can search for it on google cals. I dont want all my personal details open for anyone to view
2. Password apporach... I guess I just figured this would separate me a little as my google login also logs me into gmail, google docs, ect.... you can share your calendar with read/write permission to others and still not make it public, I just don't want anyone to be able to switch to these other shared login services on the touch screen or home computer.
Edit: I guess RIPATT got in there while I was distracted
I thought it may be able to be set up like a password protected website (http://username
[email protected]) and have a Gcal link with my passworded info embedded and just click that to open up our calendar. I can have the cookie set if that allows one less step for the wife. Goal is to make it easy for her to use it...streamline it or she will not use it. Her common comment is "Why do you have to change everything and make it difficult". I want to avoid that comment once!!!
I will have to mess around with the Private settings and see what I can do.
[email protected]) and have a Gcal link with my passworded info embedded and just click that to open up our calendar. I can have the cookie set if that allows one less step for the wife. Goal is to make it easy for her to use it...streamline it or she will not use it. Her common comment is "Why do you have to change everything and make it difficult". I want to avoid that comment once!!!I will have to mess around with the Private settings and see what I can do.
IVB
Senior Member
i don't use gmail, what type of problem is it if a random person stumbles upon my calendar? All I put in there are things like "School dance", "haircut", "CQC Webinar". Of course, if there is a simple password-protected way to do this, i'm all for it, but i'd be concerned about her not using it cuz its' too hard.
mustangcoupe
Senior Member
I guess I use my calendar for more then just haircut and school dance ect.. I add days I will be out of town, or vacations and other information that may give away that my house is empty. or the impression of that. I would be concerned that this may be another security breach....
That being said, you need to be able to connect you with this calendar and your home address.... etc
That being said, you need to be able to connect you with this calendar and your home address.... etc
mustangcoupe
Senior Member
nice one I didnt even think of Google Desktop for added WAF
mustangcoupe
Senior Member
double post sorry
Excellent point here. I have a calendar for each of my sons and their various appointments, school events, etc., and many times I may copy details into the description field so that i can have details available to me without having to find a separate file.
it actually isn't hard. Once you login, it sets an encrypted cookie (even on mobile) and it keeps you logged in for some period of time (usually a couple of weeks it would seem to me, although the mobile stuff is much shorter.) And, as long as the username is an email address (she'll remember that) and a password she is familiar with (she'll remember that too), you'll be fine. You don't have to enter it every time. And many of the things like iphone and such store the login credentials so you don't have to enter it in...
"can users sync when they're not home? "
Yes. The sync can be scheduled using "MLSchedule", or can be invoked manually via receiving a "special" email via "MLEmail" (another Outlook integration), via a web browser (like on an iPhone) or via MainLobby client connected remotely via TCP and other means.
I think if I were to do it again (for CQC or Homeseer or as a new MainLobby integration), I would support a .cal format that opens up integration with Google calendar et al.
I think the nice thing of having it integrated, as opposed to "viewed" from the HA user interface is that it can fit in the look / feel / navigation of the rest of the system. Calendar events can also trigger HA events. Helps tighten up what the system should do, based on what your personal schedule is. Example: Tuesday's is time to pick up Jr. from baseball practice. The "MLCalendar" can pause the whole house audio and "MLSpeak" can tell you "Time to pick up Jr. from Wrigley Field" 15 minutes before the "event". You can't do that with Google calendar today.
If the HA app is used as your alarm clock and knows when you wake up, your morning ritual can also be programmed. Displaying the family events in "MLCalendar" might be part of that routine. Or telling you today's events. Or emailing them to you...etc.
Yes. The sync can be scheduled using "MLSchedule", or can be invoked manually via receiving a "special" email via "MLEmail" (another Outlook integration), via a web browser (like on an iPhone) or via MainLobby client connected remotely via TCP and other means.
I think if I were to do it again (for CQC or Homeseer or as a new MainLobby integration), I would support a .cal format that opens up integration with Google calendar et al.
I think the nice thing of having it integrated, as opposed to "viewed" from the HA user interface is that it can fit in the look / feel / navigation of the rest of the system. Calendar events can also trigger HA events. Helps tighten up what the system should do, based on what your personal schedule is. Example: Tuesday's is time to pick up Jr. from baseball practice. The "MLCalendar" can pause the whole house audio and "MLSpeak" can tell you "Time to pick up Jr. from Wrigley Field" 15 minutes before the "event". You can't do that with Google calendar today.
If the HA app is used as your alarm clock and knows when you wake up, your morning ritual can also be programmed. Displaying the family events in "MLCalendar" might be part of that routine. Or telling you today's events. Or emailing them to you...etc.
damage
Senior Member
is scheduling the same as syncing remotely? if i schedule it, how does it sync if my phone & i aren't home? if i'm sitting at a baseball game, i can send a "special" email to ML from my cellphone and have it sync right then with the changes my wife just made to the family calendar @ home?
when you say "You can't do that with Google calendar today", do you mean ML users? (because i've been do that stuff for years w/ gcal).
so I just checked out Google Calendar Sync as a possible replacement for MobileMe. I've already installed it on my wife's blackberry so I can see her events in my google calendar, but in order for it to work for me, I would want to be able to sync 3-way between iPhone and Outlook (which MobileMe does now, including my work appts) and GCal, except I don't want my work appts showing up on GCal for my wife to see (why does she need to know I'm in a product development meeting from 3 to 5?). But Google Calendar Sync for Outlook right now only syncs the default Outlook calendar with the primary Google calendar, and that means my wife's GCal won't get to my iPhone and my work appts would show up on my GCal... so, for now, a no-go for me.
