Omnistat2 to HAI OPII (current FW)

[HAI_fjh]

The Omni usually keeps pretty good time but there a few things to look at:

- Do you have Web-Link or WL3. Both of these applications reset the Omni time daily. The assumption is that since most PCs sync their time to some atomic clock across the internet they probably have better time than the Omni. If you have one of these products make sure the time on that PC is correct (including Time Zone).

- There is a Clock Adjust setting under Miscellaneous Settings in PC Access. The default is 30. You can try increasing or decreasing it by 1 to adjust for drift. In your case I don't think this is the problem because a hour a day, for that matter an hour a year, would be a lot of drift.

- Any other third party apps the "correct" the Omni time?

As far as your thermostat issues I spoke to the engineer that designed the thermostat and he is going to reply to you separately.

 

[pete_c]

Hello Ryan,

I have only one thermostat.

I installed a power supply module with autonomous power for the RC-80. Its still in place.

I do not have a common installed. Should I install one with the additional power supply module? I do not see a terminal for it on the power module. I do have the wire in place if I need it.

The comm jumper is in place on the back of the thermostat board. I also added the jumper between NC and Black.

I checked to make sure all of the connections are tight. I also installed the jumper; I didn't know that you needed the jumper with the com jumper in place on the back of the thermostat board.

The odd thing is that the RC80 never caused any issues (5 years). I installed the first Omnistat2 last year and it did just fine for a few months with no issues. I then noticed issues and got a replacement via an RMA. The replacement didn't function correctly when I plugged it in showing zero on the keypads and touchscreens for the thermostat ambient temperature. I sent that one back and the current one is the replacement for that one. It is functioning fine except for the going to zero and ambient temperature thing that I am seeing on the keypads and touchscreen.

I did notice that this one has a bunch of Zigbee stuff on it. Is it just the firmware or does it actually have the Zigbee radio stuff in it?

Can I get an HAI Zigbee controller and talk to the thermostat via Zigbee and the serial connection if it exists on the thermostat?

 

[pete_c]

Hello Fred,

I always had good time on the Omni OPII. Its just recently that I have seen these fluctuations. The only new connections is the Russound CAS44 and the new Omnistat2 (replacing the RC80). I've never seen a 45 minute change or one hour change from one day to the other. I have nothing telling it to sync the time and I sync it only when I use PCA to access the panel.

I do sync my time in the house to an NTP server via GPS antenna on the roof. All the computers keep good time.

I just checked the time and it is perfectly in sync with the PC. I didn't really notice the difference in time until my lights didn't go on at the right time and checking PCA it was 45 minutes off yesterday.

 

[pete_c]

So a quick recap.

At this time I have left both the communications jumper (J8) and the NC/Black jumper in place.

The temps dropped from the 70-90's back to the 40's / 50's so switched the AC off and turned the heat back on.

I didn't see the zero/ambient temperature "thing" on the touchscreens, keyboards or PCA as I saw before when turning on the AC last week.

The time is off but only by 3 minutes via PCA from the last time I adjusted it. This is better than > 15 minutes off.

 

[pete_c]

3 Days later; I've not seen any issues both with the thermostat and time.

 

[pete_c]

I am seeing issues again. Same things as earlier; noticed that my lighting events didn't trigger last night. Checked the time and it was an hour off. I set it and checked again this morning and it was around 30 minutes off. Looking remotely at my Omnistat2 the ambient temperature was at zero or fluctuating between 0 and actual ambient temperature. Not sure if the two things are inter-related but it seems whenever I see the comm issues of ambient temperature the clock in the HAI panel get way off sync. The only thing that changed yesterday was that the outside temperature changed from the 80's to the 50's; but I really don't know why this would have anything to do with what is going on.

 

[pete_c]

The timing of the issues I stated above seem to coincide with an upgrade of Homeseer. It settled down some today and my time still synced and I am not seeing the zero for the thermostat ambient temperature on the TS's or PCA.

Note that the original issues at the top of this post occurred without the serial connection to Homeseer as I was trying to rule out comm issues in general.

 

[pete_c]

The Omnistat2 has been fine since my last posting.

I am wondering if there is a way to change the Omnistat2 default color to blue instead of green when there is a power loss?

 

[networkcrasher]

One of my omnistats color stays after a power loss and the other doesn't. They have different FW levels, which is what i think the issue is. The one with the more recent FW stays blue after power outages.

HAI says I have to mail the stat in to get the FW updated.

 

[pete_c]

I'm posting to this thread because I saw the same issue in the last couple of days. Comm issues with PCA and time has been getting off sync about 30 minutes a day for the last three days. I went to the firewall and noticed that the HAI IP kept dropping on and off the network. When using PCA via the network it was kind of slow in getting the event logs and com via the network seemed slow. Last night I lost all network communications to one older 24 port 10/100 switch. I've seen this before. I am using a 3.3VDC/4.5AMP Cisco power supply for the switch. I replaced the power supply as I have done the same once about 4 years ago. All devices including the HAI panel went back to normal.

What I don't understand is what the network connection would have to do with the comm / time stuff on the Omni Pro II or maybe it was just coincidence that the time sync / comm just happen to become problematic with the NIC was having an issue with the switch?

 

[pete_c]

Still having issues. Looks like my time is getting delayed by up to 30 minutes in a 24 hour period. Today I reset the hoping that helps.

 

[pete_c]

The reset this morning didn't help.

This is showing a time difference from syncing the time this morning around 8 AM. I'm also seeing same thermostat - Omnitouch temperature issues as earlier posted.

 

[pete_c]

It appears to be losing about 30-45 minutes a day. It doesn't matter what I have the time sync setting at under miscellaneous.

Its most noticible with the scheduled events. Lights going on at night.

 

[pete_c]

Time is going off by 30-40 minutes a day.

The Omnistat com issue cropped up again.

Disconnecting the Omnistat from the OPII today to see if my time goes back to normal.

I am at a loss right now to what it could be.

 

[pete_c]

I ended up just resetting the Omnistat (back to green screen) instead of disconnecting it at around 0800c this morning.

4 hours or so later.....1221C

I'm now seeing the thermostat temperature on the Omnitouch screens (it was going between 0 (zero) and the thermostat temp).

Checking on the time. It is not off not and perfectly in sync to what I set it to earlier this morning (0800c)

Odd and what would the thermostat have anything to do with the time on the OPII?

I've kept the Omnistat RC80. Should I just downgrade to it and forget about this issue?