Pet Immunity

[mikejrc]

I'm sure your right, but in my situation there was too much of a chance - LR has a large sectional and tower speakers that get jumped on, hallway/dining room area would pick them up on the dining room table and so on. Sure, small chance but it's there with 3.


I did; even talked to the manufacturer down in Florida and got a sample. Absolute pleasure to speak with and was surprised at how reasonable the price was. However, when taking into consideration that most of the break-ins in my area were a brick through the back slider I took a step back and thought about it. I'd still like to get them, but it slid from the top of the list.

hey video321 how are you bro.

if you are dealing with break-ins in your area using the back slider you may want to get your perimeter protection revised....
As others pointed out already, perimeter protection is fundamental, but it seems to be overlooked.
there are reliable products for outdoor perimeter protection, some of the brands I can mention, Seco-larm, Aleph and last but not least Optex.
you could use photo beams or outdoor motions or the one BSR mentioned from Optex wich is basically two straight beams one traveling parallel to the ground the other at an adjustable angle, only a large animal standing in two legs (not four legs) in front of the area you are protected or a human can interrupt both beams and generating an alarm. (again mounting height is critical) see link http://www.optexamer...l1=2&l2=&id=252

 

[mikejrc]

in reply to the original post.

you could take a look at this motion if nothing else works for you

http://www.optexamer...t/34/RX40pi.pdf

this is the motion i have in my house, uses something called " quad zoning" the link will explain this technology

this optex motion has successfully discriminated a 70 lbs german shepherd, a small chihuahua and a mid size cat, not only individually but all at once!

In fact this motion has not given me a single false alarm in about six months since i installed it. nada!

the also make a dual tech version (microwave) using the same quad zone technology

http://www.optexamer...page.aspx?id=20

I like Optex because thats all they do for a living, motion detection its their only business and there are very good at it.

 

[video321]

hey video321 how are you bro.

if you are dealing with break-ins in your area using the back slider you may want to get your perimeter protection revised....
As others pointed out already, perimeter protection is fundamental, but it seems to be overlooked.
there are reliable products for outdoor perimeter protection, some of the brands I can mention, Seco-larm, Aleph and last but not least Optex.
you could use photo beams or outdoor motions or the one BSR mentioned from Optex wich is basically two straight beams one traveling parallel to the ground the other at an adjustable angle, only a large animal standing in two legs (not four legs) in front of the area you are protected or a human can interrupt both beams and generating an alarm. (again mounting height is critical) see link http://www.optexamer...l1=2&l2=&id=252

Thanks, panamanian.
The perimeter protection has always been my first concern. I've installed all of my door/window contacts, glassbreaks and started my CCTV system for a visual deterent as well. I'm looking into locking the gate to the yard, talked to the manufacturer in Fla. about security screens, and have been really interested in those narrow beam motion detectors by Aleph and Optex. Unfortunately, I'm doing all of this at once and it all costs money :huh:

 

[video321]

in reply to the original post.

you could take a look at this motion if nothing else works for you

http://www.optexamer...t/34/RX40pi.pdf

this is the motion i have in my house, uses something called " quad zoning" the link will explain this technology

It's interested, but unless I'm mistaking something it seems you'd have to been no more than like 10' away from the sensor for it to pick you up (4 zones). Walking across at a further distance would only trip 2 zones at a time, but I'm sure I'm just not understanding it correctly.

 

[mikei-ma]

Does anyone know if there is a "two piece" pet immune PIR? I've got a mastiff, she's small for a mastiff - but still 120#. I'd like to totally avoid false alarms and was thinking there might be a solution of a dongle on a collar that would help to recognize the dog vs an intruder.

 

[tmbrown97]

I think at 120#, she's supposed to take over the interior protection!

 

[mikei-ma]

Oh.. I never said they won't be unhappy ONCE they break in, I'd just like to know when it happens so I can call an ambulance

 

[Del91574]

A an old coworker of mine used to have the old DS835's in his house with a similar massed beast and with selective masking and appropriate time spent adjusting the MW, he never had falses but the units still performed and provided good capture.

Even though a PI unit, the better ones, are rated in #'s, they can't weigh a particular animal, so it's more of a function of mass and patterns and even a 100# unit can be set to ignore a little "overweight" animals

At that size, I'd aim down each wall, mask off the center portions and possibly install a few more than a standard install, adjust the MW and call it a day.

 

[RAL]

I'd like to revive this topic along a slightly different pet immunity problem.  I'd like to install some PIR detectors in my house, where we have two 12 lb cats.  The cats are rather clever and do things like open bi-fold closet doors and kitchen cabinet doors that are near floor level.  I'm wondering if the PIRs will see the door opening and trigger.   Part of me thinks that since the doors are the same temperature as the rest of the room, it won't trigger them.  On the other hand, if some sunlight has been warming a section of the floor and then the open door blocks it, that might be enough to trigger it.
 
Any advice or experience with this? 
 
The alternative for me would be to use Pulsors instead.

 

[Del91574]

The anti-lookdown of most PI dualtecs is about 3', so lower cabinets would not be an issue. For the closet doors, it really shouldn't affect them, but judicious masking and placement could address this.

 

[tmbrown97]

If you hadn't already planned on it, dual-techs also help reduce false alarms considerably.