Unconventional keypad mounting locations

paw500

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I'm curious to learn whether anyone here has come across situations where you had to install a keypad in an unusual location, to accomodate special functional and aesthetic needs of the end-user, or to work around physical construction obstacles.

In typical installations, we're used to seeing a keypad mounted on the wall near an entry/exit point. However there may be situations where secondary keypads are discreetly mounted in other places to give the user greater convenience and access to the security/HA system. With increasingly complex and integrated systems, the keypad becomes more than just an "on/off" switch for the alarm; it is the interface providing system status, customizable messages or alerts, and even control of other automation, safety or comfort systems. The strategic placement of these keypads (or touchpanels) becomes an integral part in providing the user the full experience he demands from all the technology he's acquired and installed. Bottom line is if the system is not easy and accessible to use, it probably won't be used.

So to address the "accessible to use" point, I'm imagining that there's a good number of custom installations where, besides primary keypads located on the wall next to an entry/exit point, secondary keypads are placed unobtrusively "within reach" throughout the home.
Some unusual locations may be:
- a bedstand drawer
- a desk drawer
- inside cabinetry or built-ins
- a secret compartment
- a closet that could double as a saferoom

(Some may ask, why not use a wireless device or tablet to function as a portable keypad interface, and have access anywhere. There are pros and cons to a wireless device, and a debate in wireless vs. hardwire keypads can be made in a separate thread.)


As an example, in assessing my own daily habits, I've considered mounting a keypad inside the medicine cabinet in the bathroom. When I get out of the shower in the morning, I would like to use the keypad to get a reading of the outside temperature, see the status of some sensors, and perhaps activate some other automated tasks. For me it would be convenient to have a keypad at this location.

What are some other unusual locations people have found to locate a keypad? Were there any unique considerations in terms of wiring, mounting hardware, or environmental (temperature, moisture, ventilation) concerns?
 
Interesting topic...

I don't think the alarm keypads are what you'd want around - it seems like you want nice touchscreens with rich information.

I like similar information - so what i'm working towards is a few table-top touchscreens (and maybe in-wall) running Elve that have all my necessary info - like morning weather, traffic, and handy buttons for things I use often. For portable control, i find myself using the iPhone and iPad quite often.

I think it'd be weird to mount a keypad in unconventional locations - they're not that full features and they're really single-purpose... if you want full control use an android tablet or ipad or windows touchscreen and make your own screens that do whatever you want.
 
I'm not an installer, but I agree with Work.

I recently installed my first security system (Elk M1) and mounted my main LCD keypad in the laundry area - which is right between the garage and kitchen as we enter/exit through the garage. It's also very close to the slider to the yard for disarming. What I did do though was add the KPAS arming station by the front door and fit that in with the other decora switches so it blends right in. I don't plan on using my keypads for automation/tasks as that'll be for touchscreens. So, if I put a touchscreen by the front door I can keep the decora keypad connected as a backup without it looking cluttered. As for arming/disarming, I don't use the keypads for that anymore either as I integrated keychain remotes.
 
I have a standard console by the entry/exit points (Front Door and Garage Entry Door), used primarily for arming/disarming.

I have Touchscreens in the main central part of the house midway between the Kitchen and Family Room, the Media Room and in the Master Bedroom.
These are used primarily for the automation functions and IP camera viewing and present a much nicer appearance.

I also installed a standard console in the equipment closet for quick testing.

I plan on adding an iPad and setting it on the Family Room end table in a charging dock since it is a center point in the house, we spend the most time here, and the iPad can be taken anywhere.
 
Besides keypads in the usual places, I have RF button sets and a couple of X-10 button sets scattered around. Feedback is via M! voice announcements, when appropriate. Not as fancy as keypads or touchpads but perfectly adequate.
 
I have a couple of RF slim-line switches (SS13A) on both sides of the headboard. They have 3 buttons to turn off his and hers bed lights and the TV (+cable box).
 
Same place I have two of them.

I actually have one by each head rest, and one stuck to the wall near the wall switch.

Then Top one is hers, middle is his, bottom:
"On" is toggle floor lamp (push, if off, turn on, if on, turn off)
"Off" sets my son's light dimming. First sets his light to 70%, then dims over 30 minutes to off.

Off USED to be "set the house for night". BUT, until I get a touchscreen or something for feedback in the bedroom, that was a useless endeavor. In the last house I had an Audrey. BUT, then we moved and I've just not set one up.

--Dan
 
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