Are you worried about the Coronavirus?

Are you worried about the Corona Virus

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 54.2%
  • No

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • Total voters
    24
pete_c said:
 

 
  • Infections top 64,000: Mainland China has recorded 5,090 more cases of the novel coronavirus[/url] bringing the global total to 64,435. The death toll from the coronavirus[/url] has now risen to at least 1,383, outside mainland China.
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  • About the spiking numbers: China's government said the spike in cases was due to a change in how cases are tabulated. The total will now include "clinically diagnosed cases" — people who demonstrate all the symptoms of Covid-19 but have either been unable to access a test or are believed to have falsely tested negative.
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  • Medical workers at risk: China says over 1,700 medical workers have been infected by the virus, and six have died.
 
 
 
 
Deane Johnson said:
I think the U.S. will be in much better shape to keep some control over it, but it's still very dangerous IMO should it get loose in this country.  Fortunately, we're able to get a significant head start on how to best deal with it.
 
I don't think China is even close to slowing it down yet, despite what their government would like people to think.
 
Interesting to look back just over 1 month to the start of this thread.  
 
By all accounts, China has successfully beaten back the crisis.
The outbreak in South Korea (not mentioned above) arose and was beaten in a month.
Italy, Spain, France and elsewhere in Europe are not mentioned but are now in full-blown crisis.
The USA frittered away a month in denial.  Who knows what the next month holds.
 
Hopefully, if we all cooperate with significant restrictions for the next month, we in North America will also get ahead of the curve.
 
Craig
 
"Fortunately, we're able to get a significant head start on how to best deal with it."
 
I certainly had that wrong.  Pretty disappointing, to say the least.
 
Deane
 
An HKG vendor (from IPCamTalk) wrote the following this morning...
 
China set up checkpoint on all entrance to the community, block the road. If find any guy’s temperature is high, Ambulance will pick up you to the isolation place to make checking. If you reject , policeman will arrest you and send to the isolation place. After cured, they will sue the guy who make threat to the public safe. We had a guy took the same airline with a confirmed infection last month. When this guy arrive home the 2nd day morning. 3 ambulances and 4 policemen come to his house and take his whole family to the isolation places. They are all ok now, and back home after 2 weeks isolation.totally Different systems compare to westerns, so many guys think China is crazy and unbelievable place to live.

They collect all infection to school stadiums, at first stage they ask the mild guys stay and home, but they found all family were infected.so make the whole system crashed.
 
[youtube]http://youtu.be/aHs9VBShzbA[/youtube]
 
I think what we are witnessing today is a nearly complete lack of preparedness on the part of the United States. Countries like South Korea are doing better at containing things because they were better prepared, in part because they went through this before with the SARS virus and learned from it.  The experts have been warning for years that one day, this would happen.  But only 8 people in the US became infected with SARS, so it didn't raise alarms with the politicians about being prepared for the next time.  They thought we'd always be able to dodge the bullet.
 
RAL said:
...they went through this before with the SARS virus and learned from it.  The experts have been warning for years that one day, this would happen.  But only 8 people in the US became infected with SARS, so it didn't raise alarms with the politicians about being prepared for the next time.  They thought we'd always be able to dodge the bullet.
Not exactly.  The group in charge of planning for the next pandemic was fired in 2018.  
 
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/
 
Craig
 
LarrylLix said:
So far the COVID-19 outbreak is minor compared to the 22,000 + deaths from other flus in the USA just this winter.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
The first two words of your post make the rest of it utterly irrelevant.
 
Different countries have, so far, had radically different experiences with Covid-19.  Compare, say, Italy and Iran with Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore.  The latter three have extensive interactions with mainland China but have managed to curtail the impact of the virus.  The following article has a decent summary of the steps they took.  
 
https://time.com/5802293/coronavirus-covid19-singapore-hong-kong-taiwan/
 
The USA (and Canada) could learn a thing or three.  Unfortunately, that seems to be beyond the capabilities of the current US administration.  
 
Craig
 
A week ago the usual flu death count was at 13,000 to 40,000 (flu is not a mandatory reported illness)  in the USA this winter. That has grown faster than COVID-19 death figures.
COVID-19 has much milder symptoms than most other flu infections. It is just that COVID-19 has much worse spread speed factors.
 
Time will tell, like it did for the SARS scare. We are in self-isolation here, we just got back from Mexico. Today our leaders T&T are releasing stronger border controls between US and Canada.
 
UPDATE: All non-essential travel across our border is now restricted.
 
Saturday, 21st of March, 2020
 
Lockdowns, stay-at-home policies multiply as coronavirus cases, deaths mount
By Dom Calicchio | Fox News | AP News
 
In the U.S. and across the globe, more people were under official lockdowns or stay-at-home policies early Saturday as coronavirus cases and fatalities mounted.
 
In New York City, coronavirus patients were dying at a rate of more than one an hour, with that rate expected to rise, the city’s health commissioner said Friday, according to The New York Post.
 
After California’s governor issued the nation’s strictest “stay at home” order Thursday night, taking effect at midnight Friday. The governors of New York, Illinois and Connecticut did likewise, with Oregon among the states expected to follow suit.
 
All told, the orders would confine around 75 million Americans to their homes – able to go out only for essential reasons, such as vital work duties or to gather food and supplies.
 
“This is not a permanent state, this is a moment in time,” California Gov. Gavin Newsom said, trying to assure the nation’s most populous state that the order would eventually lift.
 
In Los Angeles, the sight of nearly empty freeways was startling in a city long known for extensive traffic snarls.
 
New York, the state with the most COVID-19 cases in the nation, received a "major disaster" declaration Friday from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), giving it access to a share of $42 billion in federal Disaster Relief Fund dollars.
 
Early Saturday, New York had more than 8,400 confirmed coronavirus cases and nearly 50 deaths, while the entire U.S. had more than 19,600 confirmed cases and about 250 deaths.
 
“No, this is not life as usual,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said as the death toll in the U.S. topped 200, with at least 35 in his state. “Accept it and realize it and deal with it.”
 
Cuomo said that starting Sunday, all workers in nonessential businesses must stay home as much as possible, and all nonessential gatherings of any size for any reason will be banned in the state of over 19 million people.
 
"When I talk about the most drastic action we can take, this is the most drastic action we can take," Cuomo said.
 
After announcing the state's fourth fatality related to coronavirus, Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont said of the lockdown: “It’s tough medicine. I think it’s the right medicine. What we’re trying to do is everything we can to improve the supply when it comes to what we can do for our health care system.”
 
Outside the U.S., Colombia’s president called for three weeks of home isolation, to begin Tuesday, with the capital Bogota already on lockdown Friday, The Associated Press reported.
 
Peru, Ecuador and Venezuela were already on lockdown.
 
Nations were hoping to avoid situations in China and Italy, where the most cases have occurred. China had more than 81,000 cases early Saturday while Italy had more than 47,000.
 
 
Worldwide, there were more than 275,000 coronavirus cases reported and 11,300 deaths.
 
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Trials with anti Malarial drug Chloroquine showing promise.  Chloroquine is an immunosuppressive and anti parasitic drug.  It creates a hole in the membrane allowing Zinc to get in which stops the virus from replicating.  
 
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Personally here for years have used Zicam / Zinc only though if I started to get an itchy nose at work or being around anyone with a cold (including wife).
 
That said in the 1970's wife got amoebic hepatitis. This is a parasitic infection.  I wrote a paper on the water supply there and noted that over 50% of the population had amoebiasis.  It was due to an artesian well system which was over a hundred years old.    Her liver functions went way down and pictures of her liver should 50% pockets of nothing left after infection.(well invasion of the parasite which ate more than half of her liver).
 
Started with Chloroquine injections every day...smuggled her back to the US (very jaundiced) and continued with the treatments for a time.  The side affects of the treatments were potent at the time.  She was 20 something very healthy and Amoebiasis almost killed her.  Started first 2 weeks in hospital then about a month in bed.  Personally found an over the counter selling of IGG and would use it a bit around peers that got hepatitis.  
 
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The above said doses being used for testing are way lower than treating for Malaria / Amoebic heptitis.
 
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I am optimistic that generally healthy folks will be fine.  
 
I'm not a big  CNN.com fan, but I just read THIS sobering article.  
 
Other than preparing for the long road ahead (this is going to last for a while) in obtaining prescription medicines, etc... I think that trying to increase our health resiliency is paramount.
 
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