Cable Internet During Power Outage

[jharrell]

It's not worth arguing points but yet you continue to post of course with nothing to backup your claims, while I continue to provide multiple sources of proof and photos of actual Verizon equipment.

Fios is not a leased fiber or PTP service, it is a Internet, TV, and Phone service using BPON or GPON technology, if it's not using GPON or BPON then it is not Fios but some other product:

"As described in 2007, Verizon FiOS services are delivered over a fiber-to-the-premises network using passive optical network technology. Voice, video, and data travel over three wavelengths in the infrared spectrum. To serve a home, a single-mode optical fiber extends from an optical line terminal at a FiOS central office out to the neighborhoods where a passive optical splitter fans out the same signal on up to 32 fibers, thus serving up to 32 subscribers."

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Verizon_FiOS

It can be no more clear than that.

So when I said that services like Fios have a distinct advantage being passive between CO and Home vs active coax cable systems I was correct. When you said I need to learn about Fios technology that it is in fact not passive, you where incorrect. You can say whatever you want, but you have not provided anything other than your words to prove otherwise.

 

[Del91574]

Whatever you choose to believe.

If you want me to post links and white papers, including to Wikipedia (which is known for incorrect information, how about that "dispute" that was listed for over 2 years) and post pictures of "typical" install VZ equipment, so be it.

None of the equipment you conveniently posted are commonly installed here on VZ FIOS services. I'm not going to go for a walk into an underground vault or open up a couple of building's CO setup to simply prove what you're reading and saying as gospel are not always the case with the VZ FIOS product and install. I have no desire to go digging up the information or dig through my shared drives to physically show you actual installs, but this dog isn't going to hunt for you. If you doubt what we've done and worked with, go read some of our case studies and white pages over at Firetide. We have a *few* large scale integrations under our belts where we were specifically working with FIOS to facilitate the mesh network.

If you believe you are correct and that makes you happy, so be it. I have better things to do with my time than to hunt hyperlinks and post links to other pages.

 

[jharrell]

I will choose to believe multiple references including Corning, photos, Wikipedia over you since you have provided zero to backup what you are saying as any reasonable person would.

I can find no case study or link between Firetide and Fios, let alone one that mentions Fios not using only PON technology.


What city does Fios use active equipment, and what technology is it? Or is that too hard for you to recall?

Here is a complete historical account of the Verizon Fios infrastructure from a guy who works for Verizon up in your part of the country:

"In 2004, Verizon began deployment of its Fiber to the Premises (FTTP) access network.
FTTP is a Passive Optical Network (PON). Verizon’s initial deployment used the ITU-T G.983 BPON (Broadband PON) standard. Beginning in late
2007 Verizon began using equipment compliant with the ITUT G.984 G-PON (Gigabit PON) standard."

http://202.194.20.8/proc/GLOBECOM2008/DATA/13-07-04.PDF

Why don't you email [email protected] and tell him he needs to learn more about Fios too.

 

[Del91574]

More power to you. I don't have the time or energy to go through the documentation, abstracts and proposals, as well as as-builts and network engineering to give what you want, nor do I feel like uploading for hours on Google Docs or Dropbox for you to read and show you that the information that is on the internet is not all gospel.

The white page you linked to is from '08, again with large abstracts from before FIOS was completely rolled out across large markets and only covers the technology and CURRENT service offerings from 5 years ago, combined with "anticipated markets" and shares. The "complete history" of FIOS and it's deployment of FTTP starts in '02 and the white paper written in '08, so we're only talking 6 years out of the last 11 years of VZ's FTTP deployment here, missing almost half of what has transpired in the market.

I'll gladly email him when I get a chance and some free time regarding the networks and how we've integrated with them and the varying architecture that has changed from the proposed passive only installation that FIOS was supposed to limit itself to when applying the appropriate standards.

Do you want me to post the information on company letterhead or just convert it into a PDF for review?

 

[BraveSirRobbin]

DelInstallations and jharrel; ENOUGH!...Please!

 

[jharrell]

The white page you linked to is from '08, again with large abstracts from before FIOS was completely rolled out across large markets and only covers the technology and CURRENT service offerings from 5 years ago, combined with "anticipated markets" and shares. The "complete history" of FIOS and it's deployment of FTTP starts in '02 and the white paper written in '08, so we're only talking 6 years out of the last 11 years of VZ's FTTP deployment here, missing almost half of what has transpired in the market.

 
Ok here is one done Sept 2012 by [email protected], is this new enough?:
 

 
http://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-t/oth/06/.../T065B0000320004PPTE.ppt
 
PON only through 2012.
 
More proof:
 
http://www.lightwaveonline.com/articles/2012/05/verizon-boosts-top-fios-ftth-speed-to-300-mbps.html
 
"Verizon says “the majority” of its customers – those connected via GPON rather than BPON -- will have access to the two fastest-speed options of 150 and 300 Mbps. At least some customers with BPON connections who “qualify” for GPON connections can have their BPON ONUs replaced with GPON equivalents to receive the top-speed services."
 
So it's clear the majority of Fios customers are on GPON, while some left on BPON, and thats it, straight from Verizon.
 
Aside to the moderator I apologize, but this seems very pertinent to the discussion regarding cable internet during a power outage, I request this thread be left open.

 

[BraveSirRobbin]

jharrel;  One more and you will be BANNED from this forum!