ELK M1XRF2G works with only 16 zones

[slytek]

I have ELK M1G with latest firmware. 1 keypad set as bus1 and 1 m1xrf2g set as bus2. both on the same cat5 line, keypad is on the end with jumper eol set. everything seems to working just fine with the exception that i cant enrol anything in wireless group two. all sensors work in wireless group 1 which is Z17-Z32 but nothing works when i add sensors into wireless group two Z33-048. i tried multiple sensors, after testing in group one, i would totaly delete and disable that zone and try to add it to group two and nothing happens. what am i doing wrong? could m1xrf2g be deffective? all i'm trying to do is to keep burglar sensors in wireless group1 and fire sensors in wireless group2

 

[Del91574]

I'm 99% sure that all RF zones need to be added consecutively, however you do not need to use up the entire block of 16.

The RF expander is not suspect here. If you transmit a signal of a non-valid ESN, what do the LED's on the unit do?

Did you allocate the groups in the RF and zone sections? Does RP show the appropriate groups and zones?

 

[slytek]

I'm 99% sure that all RF zones need to be added consecutively, however you do not need to use up the entire block of 16.

The RF expander is not suspect here. If you transmit a signal of a non-valid ESN, what do the LED's on the unit do?

Did you allocate the groups in the RF and zone sections? Does RP show the appropriate groups and zones?

I have 3 groups under zones (inputs) selection of RP. Hardwired, Wireless Group 2 and Wireless Group 3.
there are currently 4 zones in wireless group 2, Z17-Z20, rest are blank/disabled. I will have rest of the sensors all filled in this group within couple of weeks from now. Fire/Heat sensors i have now, absolutely will not work in Wireless Group 3, Z33-48 no matter which zone i put it in. Sensors work in Group 2 but i dont want them there.
I'm little confused on "I'm 99% sure that all RF zones need to be added consecutively, however you do not need to use up the entire block of 16" , how is it possible to have them consecutive and not use entire block?

Also i'm confused with "Did you allocate the groups in the RF and zone sections? Does RP show the appropriate groups and zones?" i have approproate groups show up in RP under Zones as described earlier, but i'm not sure what you mean by saying allocate groups in the RF? very first wireless group is working fine without much effort on my part. i just right clicked on zones and selected "new wireless zones" and did the same for the second but nothing works in it.

 

[Del91574]

The other versions of their receiver specifically stated the RF zones need to be consecutive, however if mixing HW and RF, you eat the zones up in blocks of 16. I don't have the original documents from the RF2G sitting here with me in PDF at the moment and Elk removed them from their site the last I looked (there were 2-3 versions of the doc online).

Do you have them enabled both within the group as well as within wireless setup sections of the config? What devices are they? How are you testing them?

 

[tmbrown97]

They don't have to be sequential - you can bounce around all you want. I did come across a bug at one point - I don't recall the specifics, but ElkRP2 kept reverting zone groups to Wired instead of Wireless unless I had a receiver enrolled to them very quickly after creating them (before another RP2 sync or something along those lines). Delete and recreate the second zone group and plug a receiver ID into one of the zones right when you create it - then see how it goes.

Unfortunately this computer doesn't run RP so I can't see exactly how it indicated that a zone was hardwired vs. wireless - but there was some indication.

 

[slytek]

They don't have to be sequential - you can bounce around all you want. I did come across a bug at one point - I don't recall the specifics, but ElkRP2 kept reverting zone groups to Wired instead of Wireless unless I had a receiver enrolled to them very quickly after creating them (before another RP2 sync or something along those lines). Delete and recreate the second zone group and plug a receiver ID into one of the zones right when you create it - then see how it goes.

Unfortunately this computer doesn't run RP so I can't see exactly how it indicated that a zone was hardwired vs. wireless - but there was some indication.

Yup, thats all it was, its a bug in RP or panel it self. Initialy when i added wireless group 3 i didnt add any sensors and later on during programing it somehow changed to hardwired zones. so i deleted and created again but i didnt add any sensors to it right away. so it kept wireless name but no sensors ever worked in it. so the trick is to add sensor right away to newly created wireless groups and send it to control.
thank you very much for info on this issue. it was driving me crazy.

 

[tmbrown97]

Great - glad that's solved! I did it to me like 5 times in a row before I figured out what was happening.