Hello from Little Rock

jparry

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Hi out there, I am new to the HA world. Taking an interest since I am building a new house with a home theater and a large wiring closet. Hoping to be able to leverage knowledge here on the site to direct my builder and some DIY stuff.

Looking for a good wiring scheme so that I can expand HA and security as I learn.
 
Welcome to CT!

I recommend you check out the wiring your new house links in my signature they are a great starting point...
 
Welcome to CT!

I recommend you check out the wiring your new house links in my signature they are a great starting point...

Thanks, I have read through those (numerous times, in fact). They are the primary reason I am excited about the HA subject.
 
Great! If you have already read that then you will realize you will end up with much more wires then you may ever need but not having them there could cost you time and money in the future.

As a starting point I would focus on making sure you map out the type of technologies you are wanting in your house, and the areas you will need wires. I would also highly reccommend you run pipes from the wiring closet to the basement (If you have one) and the attic. Thus making getting more wires where you may want them in the future easier.

And seeing as this is a new house I would wire every door (internal(for possible lighting control) and external) and window for alarm contacts wired sensors is always better then wireless for security.

I cant help much with HT/DA as I am not to that stage yet. Lets hope someone else chimes in on that one.
 
Hopefully you can get permission from the builder to run your own LV wiring. Otherwise it can get really expensive really fast because the builder generally charges an arm and a leg for each run. With the building industry hurting as it is right now, you probably have more leveraging power to demand that you run your own wiring. Of course it also depends with local code and licensing requirements too.

Bottom line - run as much wire as you can think of and afford, then run some more. :D You'll never have a better opportunity than when the house is being built.

But you certainly need to plan for what you want in the house. Go big in the plans! Write down all the "pipe dreams" and "best case" scenerios you can think of and see if you can wire for all of them.
 
I have been talking with the builder and he doesn't see any problem with me getting in there and running LV. In fact the electricians he uses have actually done projects for me at my current house and they are a good bunch that I get along with.

The things I would like to do are:
Gigabit network (Cat6)
Video RG6QS - maybe central located Directv
Security - sensors, door/window contacts, eventualy cameras
Automation - lighting, sprinkler, HVAC etc.

Not sure what platform (Elk ?) I need to grow with.
 
The good news is that for the most part, you don't really need to decide on hardware yet. So you want an alarm - it will generally be wired the same whether you decide to use ELK or another brand. But you need to sit down with a drawing and figure out the placement for each window sensor, door sensor, motion detector, (perhaps occupancy detectors too), glass breaks, keypad locations, speaker locations (for the alarm specifically), door bell interface, etc, etc, etc.

For lighting, the biggest thing to make sure is that your electrician knows to run a common wire to all the switch locations. Then they will run the switch leg to the light. That is fairly common practice today, but it use to be common place to run the power (with common wire) to the light and only run the switch leg to the switch. This leaves you without a common leg at the switch. Most "wireless" lighting systems need the common wire at the switch.

Again, I would dream big and wire for things that you may never actually do. Things like intercom system, CCTV, digital phone system, water leak detection, HVAC control, weather station placement, pool/spa control (if you are planning on putting one in), outdoor lighting control, driveway detection, outdoor PIRs, automation system (like location of touch screens), etc, etc, are easy and pretty inexpensive to wire for during contruction, but might be cost prohibitive later on.
 
For lighting, the biggest thing to make sure is that your electrician knows to run a common wire to all the switch locations. Then they will run the switch leg to the light. That is fairly common practice today, but it use to be common place to run the power (with common wire) to the light and only run the switch leg to the switch. This leaves you without a common leg at the switch. Most "wireless" lighting systems need the common wire at the switch.

Is the "common wire" the same as neutral? We moved from a two story house built in 1996 that had neutral wiring into a larger single story built around same time without neutral wiring.

Of course 15 out of 20 wall switches I want to use require a neutral. So far, with four switches, I have found the line/load/ground only. :nutz: Are their any other "neutraless" wireless switches besides Leviton Vizia + RF VRS05-1LX's? I don't know that I need more than five amps for the ceiling fans or eight 13 watt CFL bulbs, but the 15 amp Vizia switch requires a neutral. Also, are there any "neturaless" dimmers other than ACT HomePro? I haven't had good luck with ACT product relaiability, but maybe that has changed if they have a newer version than 1.11.

Vegaskat from ... North Las Vegas, Nevada. I have HomeTroller II, Z-troller, Arcos 9 touch pad, Gvision main touch Screen, X-10 door/window sensors, X-10 palm pads that control Z-wave devices through translation in HomeSeer, HomeSeer Touch, W800R732A for X-10 sensors, USB-UIRT (stopped working), Ocelot, Davis Vanatge Pro2 weather station, T.E.D., and a bunch of useless switches.
 
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